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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
	boqun@kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Cc: Hyunwoo Kim" <imv4bel@gmail.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch V2 1/8] signal: Prevent exec() race
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2026 15:28:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260910132843.GS776954@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aqKu8nJqPsmKOo1d@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, Sep 10, 2026 at 03:21:54PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:

> So I understand this one. Now unfortunately litmus doesn't support
> structures, but let's suppose it could. I'm taking the previous script
> and introduce a small change in P1:
> 
> 	C MP+polocks
> 
> 	{}
> 
> 	P0(int *A, int *B, spinlock_t *mylock)
> 	{
> 		spin_lock(mylock);
> 		WRITE_ONCE(*A, 1);
> 		spin_unlock(mylock);
> 		spin_lock(mylock);
> 		WRITE_ONCE(*B, 1);
> 		spin_unlock(mylock);
> 	}
> 
> 	P1(int *A, int *B)
> 	{
> 		int r0;
> 		int r1
> 
> 		r0 = READ_ONCE(*B);
> 		spin_lock(r0->somelock)
> 		r1 = READ_ONCE(*A);
> 		spin_unlock(r0->somelock)
> 	}
> 
> 	exists (1:r0=1 /\ 1:r1=0) (* Bad outcome. *)
> 
> 
> So instead of doing a LOAD-ACQUIRE on B, I do a plain READ but I also
> do a spin_lock right after on a data that depends on that READ. I can't
> run that on litmus but this is the same (simplified) pattern as what we
> had in this discussion and therefore I assume that it also works (ie: the
> bad outcome shouldn't happen), is that right?
> 
> Would it also work if spin_lock() was just a LOAD-ACQUIRE?

Yes, see below.

> Does it mean that data dependency implies sufficient ordering such that
> a LOAD-ACQUIRE to a data that depends on B provides the same guarantees as
> a LOAD-ACQUIRE to B?

The way data dependencies work in this case is a LOAD->LOAD ordering.
The LOAD-ACQUIRE that is part of LOCK must happen after the initial
load. And then the later load is constrained by the ACQUIRE.

So LOAD(B) must resolve in order to do LOAD_ACQUIRE(B->lock.value).



  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-10 13:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-05 18:58 [patch V2 0/8] exec/exit: POSIX timer related bugfixes and related cleanups Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 1/8] signal: Prevent exec() race Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-06 13:17   ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-06 22:39   ` Eric W. Biederman
2026-09-06 23:28     ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-07 11:26     ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-07 12:31   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-07 15:26     ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-07 20:15       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-07 22:28         ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-08 10:15           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09  0:03             ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-09  9:17               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09  8:04             ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09  9:08               ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-09  9:55                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 10:20                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 11:31                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-09 12:13                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 12:45                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 12:51                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 13:45                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-09 15:48                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 16:00                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 14:33                       ` Alan Stern
2026-09-09 14:45                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 19:28                         ` Alan Stern
2026-09-09 20:49                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-09 21:11                             ` Alan Stern
2026-09-10 13:21                               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-10 13:28                                 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-09-10 15:26                                 ` Alan Stern
2026-09-09 10:18                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09  9:11               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 2/8] exec: Cleanup POSIX timers right after de_thread() Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-06 13:21   ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-07 22:13   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 3/8] posix-timers: Move posixtimer_exec_cleanup() out of exec.c Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-10 13:50   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 4/8] posix-timers: Move POSIX timer group exit related code out of do_exit() Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-10 13:59   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 5/8] posix-cpu-timers: Move inlines out of public header Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-10 14:00   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 6/8] posix-cpu-timers: Use PF_EXITING to indicate exit Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 7/8] posix-cpu-timers: Prevent enqueueing when PF_EXITING is set Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-06 16:26   ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-07 12:20     ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 8/8] posix-timers: Handle exit in do_exit() completely Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-06 16:40   ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-07 12:27     ` Thomas Gleixner

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