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From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	stern@rowland.harvard.edu, boqun@kernel.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Cc: Hyunwoo Kim" <imv4bel@gmail.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch V2 1/8] signal: Prevent exec() race
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2026 17:48:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aqF_0k0Rm20FZ5vB@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y0dazgfz.ffs@fw13>

Le Wed, Sep 09, 2026 at 03:45:36PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner a écrit :
> On Wed, Sep 09 2026 at 14:51, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 09, 2026 at 02:45:55PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >> On Wed, Sep 09, 2026 at 02:13:11PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> >> > P2(int *next, int *prev, int *pid, spinlock_t *sighand)
> >> > {
> >> > 	int r0;
> >> > 	int r1;
> >> > 	// get target
> >> > 	r0 = READ_ONCE(*pid);
> >> > 	spin_lock(sighand);
> >
> > There is no dependency between r0 and sighand. While I think there is in
> > posixtimer_send_sigqueue(). Does making it smp_load_acquire() help?
> 
> sighand is r0->sighand->siglock and obviously not known before r0 is
> read. So yes there is a data dependency in reality :)

So unfortunately litmus tests don't support structures. So instead
of transfering the pid, I fake the data dependency by transfering the
sighand directly and then yes it works. I don't know what is the name
of the pattern behind that.

This is not a control dependency as there is no LOAD-cond-store. If
someone can shed some light on this?

C MP+farfetched

{}

P0(int *next, int *prev, int *exit_state, spinlock_t *tasklist_lock)
{
	// list_del_init()
	WRITE_ONCE(*next, 1);
	WRITE_ONCE(*prev, 1);
	// exit_notify()
	spin_lock(tasklist_lock);
	WRITE_ONCE(*exit_state, 1);
	spin_unlock(tasklist_lock);
}

P1(int *exit_state, spinlock_t *tasklist_lock, spinlock_t *sighand, spinlock_t **psighand)
{
	int r0;

	// de_thread()
	spin_lock(tasklist_lock);
	r0 = READ_ONCE(*exit_state);
	if (r0 == 1) {
		// exchange_tids()
		WRITE_ONCE(*psighand, sighand);
	}
	spin_unlock(tasklist_lock);
}

P2(int *next, int *prev, int *pid, spinlock_t *sighand, spinlock_t **psighand)
{
	spinlock_t *r0;
	int r1;

	// get target
	r0 = READ_ONCE(*psighand);
	spin_lock(r0);
	// queue signal
	r1 = READ_ONCE(*next);
	if (r1 == 1) {
		WRITE_ONCE(*prev, 2);
	}
	spin_unlock(r0);
}

exists (prev=1 /\ 2:r0=sighand) (* Bad outcome. *)
---
herd7 -conf linux-kernel.cfg ~/farfetched.litmus 
Test MP+farfetched Allowed
States 3
2:r0=0; [prev]=1;
2:r0=0; [prev]=2;
2:r0=sighand; [prev]=2;
No
Witnesses
Positive: 0 Negative: 7
Condition exists ([prev]=1 /\ 2:r0=sighand)
Observation MP+farfetched Never 0 7

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-09 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-05 18:58 [patch V2 0/8] exec/exit: POSIX timer related bugfixes and related cleanups Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 1/8] signal: Prevent exec() race Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-06 13:17   ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-06 22:39   ` Eric W. Biederman
2026-09-06 23:28     ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-07 11:26     ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-07 12:31   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-07 15:26     ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-07 20:15       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-07 22:28         ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-08 10:15           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09  0:03             ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-09  9:17               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09  8:04             ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09  9:08               ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-09  9:55                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 10:20                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 11:31                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-09 12:13                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 12:45                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 12:51                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 13:45                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-09 15:48                           ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2026-09-09 16:00                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 14:33                       ` Alan Stern
2026-09-09 14:45                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 19:28                         ` Alan Stern
2026-09-09 20:49                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-09 21:11                             ` Alan Stern
2026-09-10 13:21                               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-10 13:28                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-10 15:26                                 ` Alan Stern
2026-09-09 10:18                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09  9:11               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 2/8] exec: Cleanup POSIX timers right after de_thread() Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-06 13:21   ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-07 22:13   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 3/8] posix-timers: Move posixtimer_exec_cleanup() out of exec.c Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-10 13:50   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 4/8] posix-timers: Move POSIX timer group exit related code out of do_exit() Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-10 13:59   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 5/8] posix-cpu-timers: Move inlines out of public header Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-10 14:00   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 6/8] posix-cpu-timers: Use PF_EXITING to indicate exit Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 7/8] posix-cpu-timers: Prevent enqueueing when PF_EXITING is set Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-06 16:26   ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-07 12:20     ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 8/8] posix-timers: Handle exit in do_exit() completely Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-06 16:40   ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-07 12:27     ` Thomas Gleixner

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