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From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Cc: Hyunwoo Kim" <imv4bel@gmail.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch V2 1/8] signal: Prevent exec() race
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2026 11:11:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aqEi15q-nn8ChsMt@pavilion.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260909080407.GR4121339@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Le Wed, Sep 09, 2026 at 10:04:07AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra a écrit :
> On Tue, Sep 08, 2026 at 12:15:21PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> 
> > Yes this side is well ordered but what about the other side.
> > Ok let's simplify the picture:
> > 
> > Old leader                           Exec'ing New leader     CPU 2
> > -----                                -----                   -----
> > 
> > WRITE q->next = q
> > WRITE q->prev = q
> > 
> > ACQUIRE tasklist
> > RELEASE tasklist
> >                                      ACQUIRE tasklist
> >                                      RELEASE tasklist
> > 
> >                                      WRITE pid
> >                                                              READ pid
> > 							     // smp_mb()
> >                                                              if q->next == q
> >                                                                  WRITE q->prev
> > 
> > Isn't there a missing pairing full barrier in CPU 2 ?
> 
> 
> Let me try and have a go :-)
> 
> 
> do_exit()				de_thread() 			posix_timer_fn()
>   exit_signal()				  LOCK siglock 			  posix_timer_send_sigqueue()
>     LOCK siglock			  UNLOCK siglock 		    t = posix_timer_get_target()
>     tsk->flags |= PF_EXITING; 						    LOCK siglock
>     UNLOCK siglock			  if (!thread_group_leader) 	      if (!list_empty(sigqueue))
>     					    LOCK tasklist_lock
>     flush_sigqueue_list();		    if (leader->exit_state)
> 					      break;
>   ...                                       transfer_pid()
> 					    UNLOCK tasklist_lock
>   exit_notify()
>     LOCK tasklist_lock
>     tsk->exit_state = EXIT_ZOMBIE;
>     UNLOCK tasklist_lock
> 
> 
> 
> Then there is indeed nothing that makes sure posix_timer_fn() sees
> sigqueue updates done by do_exit(), because those are ordered by
> tasklist_lock, but posix_timer_fn() doesn't care about that.
> 
> The easy solution would probably be to do transfer_pid() while holding
> siglock?

That should work, especially with a big fat comment, and the tasklist_lock ->
sighand lock dependency already exists.

Thanks!

-- 
Frederic Weisbecker
SUSE Labs

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-09-09  9:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-05 18:58 [patch V2 0/8] exec/exit: POSIX timer related bugfixes and related cleanups Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 1/8] signal: Prevent exec() race Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-06 13:17   ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-06 22:39   ` Eric W. Biederman
2026-09-06 23:28     ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-07 11:26     ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-07 12:31   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-07 15:26     ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-07 20:15       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-07 22:28         ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-08 10:15           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09  0:03             ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-09  9:17               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09  8:04             ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09  9:08               ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-09  9:55                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 10:20                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 11:31                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-09 12:13                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 12:45                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 12:51                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 13:45                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-09 15:48                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 16:00                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 14:33                       ` Alan Stern
2026-09-09 14:45                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 19:28                         ` Alan Stern
2026-09-09 20:49                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-09 21:11                             ` Alan Stern
2026-09-10 13:21                               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-10 13:28                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-11  9:58                                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-11 10:22                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-11 12:36                                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-11 14:52                                       ` Alan Stern
2026-09-10 15:26                                 ` Alan Stern
2026-09-11 12:27                                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-11 19:05                                     ` Alan Stern
2026-09-16 13:25                                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 10:18                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09  9:11               ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 2/8] exec: Cleanup POSIX timers right after de_thread() Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-06 13:21   ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-07 22:13   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 3/8] posix-timers: Move posixtimer_exec_cleanup() out of exec.c Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-10 13:50   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 4/8] posix-timers: Move POSIX timer group exit related code out of do_exit() Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-10 13:59   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 5/8] posix-cpu-timers: Move inlines out of public header Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-10 14:00   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 6/8] posix-cpu-timers: Use PF_EXITING to indicate exit Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 7/8] posix-cpu-timers: Prevent enqueueing when PF_EXITING is set Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-06 16:26   ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-07 12:20     ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 8/8] posix-timers: Handle exit in do_exit() completely Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-06 16:40   ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-07 12:27     ` Thomas Gleixner

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