From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Cc: Hyunwoo Kim" <imv4bel@gmail.com>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch V2 1/8] signal: Prevent exec() race
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2026 12:15:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ap_gOSWtPNjwWS1e@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875x0g3de3.ffs@fw13>
Le Tue, Sep 08, 2026 at 12:28:04AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner a écrit :
> On Mon, Sep 07 2026 at 22:15, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > Le Mon, Sep 07, 2026 at 05:26:04PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner a écrit :
> >> It's not obvious of course and might deserve a comment.
> >>
> >> exit_signals()
> >> lock(sighand)
> >> old_leader->flags |= PF_EXITING;
> >> head = remove_signals()
> >> #1 // RELEASE: PF_EXITING must become visible
> >> unlock(sighand)
> >> flush_list(head)
> >>
> >> ...
> >> posixtimer_exit()
> >> posix_cpu_timers_exit_task()
> >> lock(sighand)
> >> ...
> >> #2 // RELEASE: The stores in flush_list() must become visible
> >> // They might be already in case of preemption
> >> // or due a RELEASE operation in seccomp_filter_release()
> >> unlock(sighand)
> >
> > That second step only appears at the end of the patchset, right? Otherwise
> > it's done on release_task(), which is after transfer_pid().
>
> Cleaning up the enqueued posix CPU timers has nothing to do with the
> signals.
>
> >> exit_notify()
> >> lock(task_list_lock)
> >> exit_state = EXIT_ZOMBIE;
> >> #3 // RELEASE: exit_state must become visible
>
> In context of patch 1 alone, this RELEASE operation guarantees that the
> stores in flush_list() are visible.
>
> The new leader cannot proceed with swapping the TIDs _before_ it
> acquires task list lock and observes under task_list_lock
>
> old_leader->exit_state != 0
>
> The TID swap cannot be reordered by the CPU _before_ task list lock is
> acquired and the exit_state is observed as non-zero.
>
> As the exit_notify() RELEASE made both the exit_state store and the
> preceeding flush_list() stores visible the third party must observe them
> correctly as well when it can observe the TID swap.
>
> It does not matter whether the RELEASE operation after flush_list() is
> spin_unlock(siglock) or any other RELEASE operation before and including
> the final one in exit_notify().
>
> Any of them will provide the guarantee because _all_ preceeding stores
> must be visible before the RELEASE operation is complete.
>
> No?
>
> Thanks,
Yes this side is well ordered but what about the other side.
Ok let's simplify the picture:
Old leader Exec'ing New leader CPU 2
----- ----- -----
WRITE q->next = q
WRITE q->prev = q
ACQUIRE tasklist
RELEASE tasklist
ACQUIRE tasklist
RELEASE tasklist
WRITE pid
READ pid
// smp_mb()
if q->next == q
WRITE q->prev
Isn't there a missing pairing full barrier in CPU 2 ?
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-08 10:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-05 18:58 [patch V2 0/8] exec/exit: POSIX timer related bugfixes and related cleanups Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 1/8] signal: Prevent exec() race Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-06 13:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-06 22:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2026-09-06 23:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-07 11:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-07 12:31 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-07 15:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-07 20:15 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-07 22:28 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-08 10:15 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2026-09-09 0:03 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-09 9:17 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 8:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 9:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-09 9:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 10:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 11:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-09 12:13 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 12:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 12:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 13:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-09 15:48 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 16:00 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 14:33 ` Alan Stern
2026-09-09 14:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 19:28 ` Alan Stern
2026-09-09 20:49 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-09 21:11 ` Alan Stern
2026-09-10 13:21 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-10 13:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-10 15:26 ` Alan Stern
2026-09-09 10:18 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 9:11 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 2/8] exec: Cleanup POSIX timers right after de_thread() Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-06 13:21 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-07 22:13 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 3/8] posix-timers: Move posixtimer_exec_cleanup() out of exec.c Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-10 13:50 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 4/8] posix-timers: Move POSIX timer group exit related code out of do_exit() Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-10 13:59 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 5/8] posix-cpu-timers: Move inlines out of public header Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-10 14:00 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 6/8] posix-cpu-timers: Use PF_EXITING to indicate exit Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 7/8] posix-cpu-timers: Prevent enqueueing when PF_EXITING is set Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-06 16:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-07 12:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 8/8] posix-timers: Handle exit in do_exit() completely Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-06 16:40 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-07 12:27 ` Thomas Gleixner
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