From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Cc: Hyunwoo Kim" <imv4bel@gmail.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: [patch V2 7/8] posix-cpu-timers: Prevent enqueueing when PF_EXITING is set
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2026 14:20:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wlsx2qyw.ffs@fw13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ap2UK_7yQkJqDzVG@redhat.com>
On Sun, Sep 06 2026 at 18:26, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 09/05, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>
>> @@ -684,7 +706,13 @@ static void arm_timer(struct k_itimer *t
>> struct cpu_timer *ctmr = &timer->it.cpu;
>> u64 newexp = cpu_timer_getexpires(ctmr);
>>
>> + lockdep_assert_held(&p->sighand->siglock);
>> +
>> timer->it_status = POSIX_TIMER_ARMED;
>> +
>> + if (unlikely(!task_can_enqueue_timer(p, clock_pid_type(timer->it_clock))))
>> + return;
>
> I can't understand why does it check task_can_enqueue_timer() after
> setting POSIX_TIMER_ARMED. This adds the new armed-but-not-enqueued state,
> afaics.
>
> I see nothing wrong, it seems that this can only affect __posix_cpu_timer_get()
> which checks ->it_status, other code paths do not check ->it_status.
>
> But I don't understand this code, so let me ask: is it on purpose? I mean,
> is there any reason to set _ARMED unconditionally ?
It is intentional.
The problem is that timer_create(2), timer_settime(2), timer_gettime(2)
and timer_delete(2) are "functional" today as long as a task is visible,
i.e. hashed. By some definition of functional.
Since f90fff1e152d ("posix-cpu-timers: fix race between
handle_posix_cpu_timers() and posix_cpu_timer_del()") an exiting task
does not expire timers anymore. That commit used task->exit_state, which
is set way after exit_signals() in do_exit(). I made that earlier in the
previous commit.
So while timers still can be [re-]armed they won't expire which means
that queueing them in the first place is pointless. But I kept the state
modification to avoid behavioural changes. The current state is that a
timer is "armed" until it expired and the signal is queued. I just
preserved that.
Of course one could argue that once a task reached PF_EXITING, timers
armed on them don't matter anymore and simply return -ESRCH, but that's
a user visible change which I wanted to avoid right now.
I'm happy to stop pretending that this "works" after PF_EXITING is set,
but don't have strong opinions either.
Thanks,
tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-07 12:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-05 18:58 [patch V2 0/8] exec/exit: POSIX timer related bugfixes and related cleanups Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 1/8] signal: Prevent exec() race Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-06 13:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-06 22:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2026-09-06 23:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-07 11:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-07 12:31 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-07 15:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-07 20:15 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-07 22:28 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-08 10:15 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 0:03 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-09 9:17 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 8:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 9:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-09 9:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 10:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 11:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-09 12:13 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 12:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 12:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 13:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-09 15:48 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 16:00 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 14:33 ` Alan Stern
2026-09-09 14:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 19:28 ` Alan Stern
2026-09-09 20:49 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-09 21:11 ` Alan Stern
2026-09-10 13:21 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-10 13:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-10 15:26 ` Alan Stern
2026-09-09 10:18 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 9:11 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 2/8] exec: Cleanup POSIX timers right after de_thread() Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-06 13:21 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-07 22:13 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 3/8] posix-timers: Move posixtimer_exec_cleanup() out of exec.c Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-10 13:50 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 4/8] posix-timers: Move POSIX timer group exit related code out of do_exit() Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-10 13:59 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 5/8] posix-cpu-timers: Move inlines out of public header Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-10 14:00 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 6/8] posix-cpu-timers: Use PF_EXITING to indicate exit Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 7/8] posix-cpu-timers: Prevent enqueueing when PF_EXITING is set Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-06 16:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-07 12:20 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 8/8] posix-timers: Handle exit in do_exit() completely Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-06 16:40 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-07 12:27 ` Thomas Gleixner
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