From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 11/20] ctlv: Prepare runtime introspection
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2026 21:05:37 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261103010537.GI3889730@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <auRmMPfaFINUIchi@FV6GYCPJ69>
On Fri, Oct 30, 2026 at 10:53:11AM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> >So.. how about could we drop the sets, use a direct description of the
> >layout and do something else for the ID numbering? Maybe the numbering
> >can be solved directly by only listing the names in:
> >
> >numbering:
> > - device-get.reply
> > - device-get.reply.caps
> > - device-get.caps.evidence
> > -[..]
> >
> >?
>
> I'm still committed to implicit numbering. For "inline records" I
> resolved it by having it encoded as a tree with 4 levels:
>
> 63 48 47 46 45 32 31 28 27 24 23 20 19 16 15 0
> +-------------+-----+------------+------+------+------+------+------------------+
> | family |kind | index | L1 | L2 | L3 | L4 | field |
> +-------------+-----+------------+------+------+------+------+------------------+
> |<------------------ record ------------------>|
Fascinating idea. Sort of like an oid
I guarentee we will run out of bits someday :) I saw recently we ran
out of bits in RDMA :\ 3 bits seems like quite a small number..
Maybe increasing op to 128 bits?
Maybe family/kind/index/field spread over the first 64 and then the
Lx's over the second?
At the very least there should be an escape hatch so that if this
becomes too small there is a way to opt into some new layout and fix
it without breaking everything.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-03 1:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 175+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-15 14:50 [PATCH RFC 00/20] attestation: Add a common subsystem and TDX support Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 01/20] ctlv: Add the schema language and generator Jiri Pirko
2026-10-20 22:31 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-21 13:23 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-27 8:34 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 02/20] ctlv: Add the UAPI wire format and family API Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 23:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 12:26 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-20 23:00 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-20 23:39 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-21 13:54 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-26 18:55 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-10-27 8:02 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-27 14:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-27 14:48 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-10-27 15:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-27 15:55 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 03/20] ctlv: Add the root family specification and generated files Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 23:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 12:28 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-20 12:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 14:07 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-20 23:30 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-21 16:25 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 04/20] Documentation: ctlv: Add userspace ABI Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 23:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 14:06 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21 0:11 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-22 9:01 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-23 19:23 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-29 18:53 ` Sergii Dmytruk
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 05/20] ctlv: Prepare message input handling Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21 0:43 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-22 8:27 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-22 18:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-23 12:55 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-26 14:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-27 10:17 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 06/20] ctlv: Prepare blob descriptor validation Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 07/20] ctlv: Prepare schema validation Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 08/20] ctlv: Prepare message output handling Jiri Pirko
2026-10-26 14:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-02 19:19 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 09/20] ctlv: Prepare VA blob handling Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 10/20] ctlv: Prepare event queue support Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21 1:12 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-22 9:04 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-26 14:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-26 14:45 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-27 12:38 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-11-02 12:49 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 11/20] ctlv: Prepare runtime introspection Jiri Pirko
2026-10-26 14:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-26 14:52 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-26 16:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-30 9:40 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-27 10:21 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-30 9:53 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-11-03 1:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 12/20] ctlv: Add device and operation dispatch Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21 1:25 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-22 9:05 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-22 18:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-23 12:58 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-23 14:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-26 13:48 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-26 14:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-27 13:38 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 13/20] Documentation: ctlv: Describe how to write a family Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 23:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 14:23 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21 14:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 16:24 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21 16:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-22 8:22 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-22 19:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-23 13:01 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 14/20] attestation: Add the base family specification and generated files Jiri Pirko
2026-10-26 14:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-29 10:04 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-29 18:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-29 19:38 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-30 15:02 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-30 15:05 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 15/20] attestation: Prepare provider and instance core Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 23:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 13:04 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-29 18:50 ` Sergii Dmytruk
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 16/20] attestation: Prepare measurement register journal Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 17/20] attestation: Add CTLV operation handling Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 18/20] tdx-guest: Expose the native attestation service API Jiri Pirko
2026-10-26 14:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-27 10:03 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 19/20] attestation: Add the TDX family specification and generated files Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 20/20] attestation: Add the TDX family implementation Jiri Pirko
2026-10-22 22:07 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-23 14:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-23 19:40 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-23 22:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-02 19:02 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-03 0:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-23 18:15 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-23 19:41 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-16 23:43 ` [PATCH RFC 00/20] attestation: Add a common subsystem and TDX support Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-17 18:16 ` Dionna Glaze
2026-10-17 19:06 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-17 19:08 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-17 19:22 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-17 20:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-17 21:14 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-17 20:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-17 20:55 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-17 23:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-18 23:53 ` Dionna Glaze
2026-10-19 12:08 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 16:10 ` Dionna Glaze
2026-10-19 22:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 8:33 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21 14:12 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-21 14:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 19:05 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-22 10:54 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-22 11:24 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-22 18:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-22 19:19 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-22 19:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-22 19:40 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-22 19:40 ` James Bottomley
2026-10-22 12:26 ` James Bottomley
2026-10-22 13:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-22 14:07 ` James Bottomley
2026-10-22 19:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-22 19:37 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-22 19:45 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-22 19:52 ` James Bottomley
2026-10-22 20:43 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-20 9:26 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-20 13:45 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-20 14:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 15:22 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-20 16:11 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-10-20 16:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 12:23 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-21 13:18 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-21 13:50 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-10-21 13:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 14:31 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-21 14:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 12:48 ` James Bottomley
2026-10-21 13:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-19 12:40 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-19 23:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 12:49 ` James Bottomley
2026-10-20 13:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-22 10:30 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-10-22 15:38 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-22 16:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-23 8:04 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-10-23 11:32 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-23 14:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-23 15:28 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-10-23 15:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-23 19:13 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-27 18:43 ` Dave Jiang
2026-10-27 19:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-27 23:09 ` Dave Jiang
2026-10-27 23:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-28 19:16 ` Dave Jiang
2026-10-29 14:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-29 9:32 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-29 9:30 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-29 10:07 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-29 7:37 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-29 14:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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