From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@parallels.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] [PATCH] sched: Add smp_rmb() in task rq locking cycles
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 17:32:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150218163256.GA29123@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150218161112.GB5029@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On 02/18, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 04:53:34PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 02/17, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > >
> > > | mb | wmb | rmb | rbd | acq | rel | ctl |
> > > -----+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
> > > mb | Y | | Y | y | Y | | Y +
> > > -----+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
> > > wmb | Y | | Y | y | Y | | Y +
> > > -----+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
> > > rmb | | | | | | | +
> > > -----+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
> > > rbd | | | | | | | +
> > > -----+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
> > > acq | | | | | | | +
> > > -----+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
> > > rel | Y | | Y | y | Y | | Y +
> > > -----+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
> > > ctl | | | | | | | +
> > > -----+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
> >
> > OK, so "acq" can't pair with "acq", and I am not sure I understand.
>
> Please consider the table in the context of message passing; that is
> what Paul proposed. Your example from sysvsems, while interesting, would
> not fit the general scenario of message passing.
Ah, yeeees, sorry. Somehow I completely missed that part of Paul's email.
> This too illustrates a problem with that approach, people can't read, so
> they'll pick the wrong table to look at.
At least we know that I certainly can't ;)
Thanks,
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-18 16:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20150217104516.12144.85911.stgit@tkhai>
2015-02-17 10:47 ` Kirill Tkhai
2015-02-17 12:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 12:36 ` Kirill Tkhai
2015-02-17 12:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 13:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 16:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-17 18:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-17 18:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 21:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 13:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 18:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 21:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 13:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-18 18:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 15:53 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-18 16:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-18 16:32 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2015-02-18 19:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 15:59 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-18 19:14 ` Manfred Spraul
2015-02-18 22:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-19 14:19 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-20 18:28 ` Manfred Spraul
2015-02-20 18:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-20 20:23 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-21 12:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-25 19:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-26 10:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-28 14:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 15:53 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 16:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 16:44 ` [PATCH] spinlock: clarify doc for raw_spin_unlock_wait() Chris Metcalf
2015-04-29 17:34 ` Manfred Spraul
2015-04-28 17:33 ` [PATCH 1/2] tile: modify arch_spin_unlock_wait() semantics Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 17:33 ` [PATCH 2/2] tile: use READ_ONCE() in arch_spin_is_locked() Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 16:40 ` [PATCH 2/2] [PATCH] sched: Add smp_rmb() in task rq locking cycles Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 16:58 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 17:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 18:00 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 18:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 18:38 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 14:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 20:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-21 3:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-23 18:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 17:05 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Clarify ordering between task_rq_lock() and move_queued_task() tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
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