From: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@parallels.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] [PATCH] sched: Add smp_rmb() in task rq locking cycles
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:14:01 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54E4E479.4050003@colorfullife.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150218155904.GA27687@redhat.com>
Hi Oleg,
On 02/18/2015 04:59 PM, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> Let's look at sem_lock(). I never looked at this code before, I can be
> easily wrong. Manfred will correct me. But at first glance we can write
> the oversimplified pseudo-code:
>
> spinlock_t local, global;
>
> bool my_lock(bool try_local)
> {
> if (try_local) {
> spin_lock(&local);
> if (!spin_is_locked(&global))
> return true;
> spin_unlock(&local);
> }
>
> spin_lock(&global);
> spin_unlock_wait(&local);
> return false;
> }
>
> void my_unlock(bool drop_local)
> {
> if (drop_local)
> spin_unlock(&local);
> else
> spin_unlock(&global);
> }
>
> it assumes that the "local" lock is cheaper than "global", the usage is
>
> bool xxx = my_lock(condition);
> /* CRITICAL SECTION */
> my_unlock(xxx);
>
> Now. Unless I missed something, my_lock() does NOT need a barrier BEFORE
> spin_unlock_wait() (or spin_is_locked()). Either my_lock(true) should see
> spin_is_locked(global) == T, or my_lock(false)->spin_unlock_wait() should
> see that "local" is locked and wait.
I would agree:
There is no need for a barrier. spin_unlock_read() is just a read, the
barriers are from spin_lock() and spin_unlock().
The barrier exist to protect something like a "force_global" flag
(complex_count)
> spinlock_t local, global;
> bool force_global;
> bool my_lock(bool try_local)
> {
> if (try_local) {
> spin_lock(&local);
> if (!spin_is_locked(&global)) {
> if (!force_global) {
> return true;
> }
> }
> spin_unlock(&local);
>
>
> spin_lock(&global);
> spin_unlock_wait(&local);
> return false;
> }
>
> void my_unlock(bool drop_local)
> {
> if (drop_local)
> spin_unlock(&local);
> else
> spin_unlock(&global);
> }
> }
force_global can only be set by the owner of &global.
> Another question is do we need a barrier AFTER spin_unlock_wait(). I do not
> know what ipc/sem.c actually needs, but in general (I think) this does need
> mb(). Otherwise my_lock / my_unlock itself does not have the proper acq/rel
> semantics. For example, my_lock(false) can miss the changes which were done
> under my_lock(true).
How could that happen?
I thought that
thread A:
protected_var = 1234;
spin_unlock(&lock_a)
thread B:
spin_lock(&lock_b)
if (protected_var)
is safe. i.e, there is no need that acquire and releases is done on the same pointer.
--
Manfred
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-18 19:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20150217104516.12144.85911.stgit@tkhai>
2015-02-17 10:47 ` Kirill Tkhai
2015-02-17 12:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 12:36 ` Kirill Tkhai
2015-02-17 12:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 13:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 16:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-17 18:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-17 18:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 21:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 13:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 18:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 21:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 13:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-18 18:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 15:53 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-18 16:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-18 16:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-18 19:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 15:59 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-18 19:14 ` Manfred Spraul [this message]
2015-02-18 22:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-19 14:19 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-20 18:28 ` Manfred Spraul
2015-02-20 18:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-20 20:23 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-21 12:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-25 19:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-26 10:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-28 14:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 15:53 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 16:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 16:44 ` [PATCH] spinlock: clarify doc for raw_spin_unlock_wait() Chris Metcalf
2015-04-29 17:34 ` Manfred Spraul
2015-04-28 17:33 ` [PATCH 1/2] tile: modify arch_spin_unlock_wait() semantics Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 17:33 ` [PATCH 2/2] tile: use READ_ONCE() in arch_spin_is_locked() Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 16:40 ` [PATCH 2/2] [PATCH] sched: Add smp_rmb() in task rq locking cycles Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 16:58 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 17:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 18:00 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 18:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 18:38 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 14:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 20:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-21 3:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-23 18:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 17:05 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Clarify ordering between task_rq_lock() and move_queued_task() tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
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