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From: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@parallels.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] [PATCH] sched: Add smp_rmb() in task rq locking cycles
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 19:28:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54E77CC0.5030401@colorfullife.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150219141905.GA11018@redhat.com>

Hi Oleg,

my example was bad, let's continue with your example.

And: If sem_lock() needs another smp_xmb(), then we must add it:
Some apps do not have a user space hot path, i.e. it seems that on some 
setups, we have millions of calls per second.
If there is a race, then it will happen.

I've tried to merge your example:
 >
 > int X = 0, Y = 0;
 >
 > void func(void)
 > {
 >     bool ll = rand();
 >
 >     if (ll) {
 >         spin_lock(&local);
 >         if (!spin_is_locked(&global))
 >             goto done;
 >         spin_unlock(&local);
 >     }
 >     ll = false;
 >     spin_lock(&global);
 >     spin_unlock_wait(&local);
 > done:
 >     smp_rmb(); <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
 >     BUG_ON(X != Y);
 >
 >     ++X; ++Y;
 >
 >     if (ll)
 >         spin_unlock(&local);
 >     else
 >         spin_unlock(&global);
 > }
I agree, we need the smp_rmb().
I'll write a patch.

> We need the full barrier to serialize STORE's as well, but probably we can
> rely on control dependancy and thus we only need rmb().
Do we need a full barrier or not?

I don't manage to create a proper line of reasoning.
--
     Manfred

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-20 18:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20150217104516.12144.85911.stgit@tkhai>
2015-02-17 10:47 ` Kirill Tkhai
2015-02-17 12:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 12:36     ` Kirill Tkhai
2015-02-17 12:45       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 13:05     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 16:05       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-17 18:01         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-17 18:23           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 21:45             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 13:41               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 18:36         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 21:52           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 13:47             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-18 18:43               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 15:53             ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-18 16:11               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-18 16:32                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-18 19:23                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 15:59             ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-18 19:14               ` Manfred Spraul
2015-02-18 22:43                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-19 14:19                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-20 18:28                     ` Manfred Spraul [this message]
2015-02-20 18:45                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-20 20:23                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-21 12:54                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-25 19:56                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-26 10:52                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-28 14:33                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 15:53                               ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 16:24                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 16:44                                   ` [PATCH] spinlock: clarify doc for raw_spin_unlock_wait() Chris Metcalf
2015-04-29 17:34                                     ` Manfred Spraul
2015-04-28 17:33                                   ` [PATCH 1/2] tile: modify arch_spin_unlock_wait() semantics Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 17:33                                     ` [PATCH 2/2] tile: use READ_ONCE() in arch_spin_is_locked() Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 16:40                                 ` [PATCH 2/2] [PATCH] sched: Add smp_rmb() in task rq locking cycles Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 16:58                                   ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 17:43                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 18:00                                       ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 18:24                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 18:38                                           ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 14:32                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 20:33                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-21  3:26                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-23 18:29                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 17:05     ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Clarify ordering between task_rq_lock() and move_queued_task() tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra

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