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From: Vern Hao <haoxing990@gmail.com>
To: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	"Gautham R . Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Madadi Vineeth Reddy <vineethr@linux.ibm.com>,
	Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>,
	Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>,
	Jianyong Wu <jianyong.wu@outlook.com>,
	Yangyu Chen <cyy@cyyself.name>,
	Tingyin Duan <tingyin.duan@gmail.com>,
	Vern Hao <vernhao@tencent.com>, Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	Aubrey Li <aubrey.li@intel.com>, Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com>,
	Chen Yu <yu.chen.surf@gmail.com>, Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
	Adam Li <adamli@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	Aaron Lu <ziqianlu@bytedance.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Vern Hao <haoxing990@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 05/23] sched/cache: Assign preferred LLC ID to processes
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 12:01:45 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15faefaa-7460-41dc-a44c-989d51d83451@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a64cf2ff368af33ef5814d29defd0d84e8ce9f41.camel@linux.intel.com>


On 2025/12/16 03:32, Tim Chen wrote:
> On Fri, 2025-12-12 at 11:34 +0800, Vern Hao wrote:
>> On 2025/12/4 07:07, Tim Chen wrote:
>>> With cache-aware scheduling enabled, each task is assigned a
>>> preferred LLC ID. This allows quick identification of the LLC domain
>>> where the task prefers to run, similar to numa_preferred_nid in
>>> NUMA balancing.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Notes:
>>>       v1->v2: Align preferred LLC with NUMA balancing's preferred node.
>>>
>>>    include/linux/sched.h |  1 +
>>>    init/init_task.c      |  3 +++
>>>    kernel/sched/fair.c   | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
>>>    3 files changed, 22 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/include/linux/sched.h b/include/linux/sched.h
>>> index 278b529c91df..1ad46220cd04 100644
>>> --- a/include/linux/sched.h
>>> +++ b/include/linux/sched.h
>>> @@ -1408,6 +1408,7 @@ struct task_struct {
>>>    
>>>    #ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_CACHE
>>>    	struct callback_head		cache_work;
>>> +	int				preferred_llc;
>>>    #endif
>>>    
>>>    #ifdef CONFIG_RSEQ
>>> diff --git a/init/init_task.c b/init/init_task.c
>>> index a55e2189206f..44bae72b5b7d 100644
>>> --- a/init/init_task.c
>>> +++ b/init/init_task.c
>>> @@ -191,6 +191,9 @@ struct task_struct init_task __aligned(L1_CACHE_BYTES) = {
>>>    	.numa_group	= NULL,
>>>    	.numa_faults	= NULL,
>>>    #endif
>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_CACHE
>>> +	.preferred_llc  = -1,
>>> +#endif
>>>    #if defined(CONFIG_KASAN_GENERIC) || defined(CONFIG_KASAN_SW_TAGS)
>>>    	.kasan_depth	= 1,
>>>    #endif
>>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>>> index 0a3918269906..10cec83f65d5 100644
>>> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
>>> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>>> @@ -1300,6 +1300,7 @@ void account_mm_sched(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, s64 delta_exec)
>>>    	struct mm_struct *mm = p->mm;
>>>    	struct mm_sched *pcpu_sched;
>>>    	unsigned long epoch;
>>> +	int mm_sched_llc = -1;
>>>    
>>>    	if (!sched_cache_enabled())
>>>    		return;
>>> @@ -1330,6 +1331,23 @@ void account_mm_sched(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, s64 delta_exec)
>>>    		if (mm->mm_sched_cpu != -1)
>>>    			mm->mm_sched_cpu = -1;
>>>    	}
>>> +
>>> +	if (mm->mm_sched_cpu != -1) {
>>> +		mm_sched_llc = llc_id(mm->mm_sched_cpu);
>>> +
>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_NUMA_BALANCING
>>> +		/*
>>> +		 * Don't assign preferred LLC if it
>>> +		 * conflicts with NUMA balancing.
>>> +		 */
>>> +		if (p->numa_preferred_nid >= 0 &&
>> I wonder if the restriction here shouldn't be so strict. In Mel Gorman's
>> patch (e496132ebedd sched/fair: Adjust the allowed NUMA imbalance when
>> SD_NUMA spans multiple LLCs), the value of the 'imb_numa_nr' is checked
>> to determine if |SD_NUMA| imbalance is allowed. Could we use this same
>> check to decide whether or not to perform a cross-numa migration?
> If we set the preferred LLC that's in a different node other than the preferred
> node, the preferred LLC is going to fight with NUMA balancing and bounce
> tasks back and forth between nodes. NUMA locality is going to affect performance
> more so we'll let NUMA preference take precedence.

I might not have explained myself clearly. I’m questioning whether we 
need to integrate an imbalance check into the 'sgs->group_type|' is 
’group_has_spare|' scenario,  like Mel’s patch, to refine our llc 
migration decisions.

just like this:  8 cpus in one LLC, LLC-A has 6 tasks,  LLC-B has 2 
tasks, if LLC-A has task_a need to migrate to LLC_B, how to deal it ?

> Tim
>
>>> +		    cpu_to_node(mm->mm_sched_cpu) != p->numa_preferred_nid)
>>> +			mm_sched_llc = -1;
>>> +#endif
>>> +	}
>>> +
>>> +	if (p->preferred_llc != mm_sched_llc)
>>> +		p->preferred_llc = mm_sched_llc;
>>>    }
>>>    
>>>    static void task_tick_cache(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p)

  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-19  4:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-03 23:07 [PATCH v2 00/23] Cache aware scheduling Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 01/23] sched/cache: Introduce infrastructure for cache-aware load balancing Tim Chen
2025-12-09 11:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-09 21:39     ` Tim Chen
2025-12-10  9:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 13:57     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-10 15:11       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-11  9:03   ` Vern Hao
2025-12-16  6:12     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-17  1:17       ` Vern Hao
2026-01-15 21:47         ` Tim Chen
     [not found]   ` <fbf52d91-0605-4608-b9cc-e8cc56115fd5@gmail.com>
2025-12-16 22:30     ` Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 02/23] sched/cache: Record per-LLC utilization to guide cache-aware scheduling decisions Tim Chen
2025-12-09 11:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 14:02     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-10 15:13       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 23:58         ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 03/23] sched/cache: Introduce helper functions to enforce LLC migration policy Tim Chen
2026-01-22 18:13   ` Yangyu Chen
2026-01-22 20:43     ` Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 04/23] sched/cache: Make LLC id continuous Tim Chen
2025-12-09 11:58   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-15 20:49     ` Tim Chen
2025-12-16  5:31       ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-16 19:53         ` Tim Chen
2025-12-17  5:25           ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-23  5:31   ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-12-24  7:08     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-24  8:19       ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-12-24  9:46         ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-26  3:17           ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 05/23] sched/cache: Assign preferred LLC ID to processes Tim Chen
2025-12-09 12:11   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-09 22:34     ` Tim Chen
2025-12-12  3:34   ` Vern Hao
2025-12-15 19:32     ` Tim Chen
2025-12-19  4:01       ` Vern Hao [this message]
2025-12-24 10:20         ` Chen, Yu C
2026-01-07  4:49   ` Jianyong Wu
2026-01-07  8:38     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 06/23] sched/cache: Track LLC-preferred tasks per runqueue Tim Chen
2025-12-09 12:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-09 22:55     ` Tim Chen
2025-12-10  9:42       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-16  0:20         ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-17 10:04   ` Vern Hao
2025-12-17 12:37     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 07/23] sched/cache: Introduce per runqueue task LLC preference counter Tim Chen
2025-12-09 13:06   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-09 23:17     ` Tim Chen
2025-12-10 12:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 18:36     ` Tim Chen
2025-12-10 12:51   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 18:49     ` Tim Chen
2025-12-11 10:31       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-15 19:21         ` Tim Chen
2025-12-16 22:45         ` Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 08/23] sched/cache: Calculate the per runqueue task LLC preference Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 09/23] sched/cache: Count tasks prefering destination LLC in a sched group Tim Chen
2025-12-10 12:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 14:05     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-10 15:16       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 19:00         ` Tim Chen
2025-12-10 23:50         ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 10/23] sched/cache: Check local_group only once in update_sg_lb_stats() Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 11/23] sched/cache: Prioritize tasks preferring destination LLC during balancing Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 12/23] sched/cache: Add migrate_llc_task migration type for cache-aware balancing Tim Chen
2025-12-10 13:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-16  0:52     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 13/23] sched/cache: Handle moving single tasks to/from their preferred LLC Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 14/23] sched/cache: Consider LLC preference when selecting tasks for load balancing Tim Chen
2025-12-10 15:58   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 15/23] sched/cache: Respect LLC preference in task migration and detach Tim Chen
2025-12-10 16:30   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-16  7:30     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 16/23] sched/cache: Introduce sched_cache_present to enable cache aware scheduling for multi LLCs NUMA node Tim Chen
2025-12-10 16:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 16:52     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-16  7:36       ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-16  7:31     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 17/23] sched/cache: Record the number of active threads per process for cache-aware scheduling Tim Chen
2025-12-10 16:51   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-16  7:40     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-17  9:40   ` Aaron Lu
2025-12-17 12:51     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-19  3:32       ` Aaron Lu
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 18/23] sched/cache: Disable cache aware scheduling for processes with high thread counts Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 19/23] sched/cache: Avoid cache-aware scheduling for memory-heavy processes Tim Chen
2025-12-18  3:59   ` Vern Hao
2025-12-18  8:32     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-18  9:42       ` Vern Hao
2025-12-19  3:14         ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-12-19 12:55           ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-22  2:49             ` Vern Hao
2025-12-22  2:19           ` Vern Hao
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 20/23] sched/cache: Add user control to adjust the parameters of cache-aware scheduling Tim Chen
2025-12-10 17:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-16  7:42     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-19  4:14   ` Vern Hao
2025-12-19 13:21     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-19 13:39     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-23 12:12   ` Yangyu Chen
2025-12-23 16:44     ` Yangyu Chen
2025-12-24  3:28       ` Yangyu Chen
2025-12-24  7:51         ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-24 12:15           ` Yangyu Chen
2026-01-15 10:03   ` Jianyong Wu
2026-01-15 12:13     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-01-21 15:21   ` Yangyu Chen
2026-01-21 15:38     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 21/23] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/stats: Add schedstat for cache aware load balancing Tim Chen
2025-12-19  5:03   ` Yangyu Chen
2025-12-19 14:41     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-19 14:48       ` Yangyu Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 22/23] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Add ftrace to track the load balance statistics Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 23/23] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Display the per LLC occupancy for each process via proc fs Tim Chen
2025-12-17  9:59   ` Aaron Lu
2025-12-17 13:01     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-19  3:19 ` [PATCH v2 00/23] Cache aware scheduling Aaron Lu
2025-12-19 13:04   ` Chen, Yu C

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