From: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
"Gautham R . Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
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Aaron Lu <ziqianlu@bytedance.com>,
Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 07/23] sched/cache: Introduce per runqueue task LLC preference counter
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2025 10:49:14 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cbacc6df3b197566e763739d96508aaabf01bfc0.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251210125114.GS3707891@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Wed, 2025-12-10 at 13:51 +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 03, 2025 at 03:07:26PM -0800, Tim Chen wrote:
>
> > +static int resize_llc_pref(void)
> > +{
> > + unsigned int *__percpu *tmp_llc_pref;
> > + int i, ret = 0;
> > +
> > + if (new_max_llcs <= max_llcs)
> > + return 0;
> > +
> > + /*
> > + * Allocate temp percpu pointer for old llc_pref,
> > + * which will be released after switching to the
> > + * new buffer.
> > + */
> > + tmp_llc_pref = alloc_percpu_noprof(unsigned int *);
> > + if (!tmp_llc_pref)
> > + return -ENOMEM;
> > +
> > + for_each_present_cpu(i)
> > + *per_cpu_ptr(tmp_llc_pref, i) = NULL;
> > +
> > + /*
> > + * Resize the per rq nr_pref_llc buffer and
> > + * switch to this new buffer.
> > + */
> > + for_each_present_cpu(i) {
> > + struct rq_flags rf;
> > + unsigned int *new;
> > + struct rq *rq;
> > +
> > + rq = cpu_rq(i);
> > + new = alloc_new_pref_llcs(rq->nr_pref_llc, per_cpu_ptr(tmp_llc_pref, i));
> > + if (!new) {
> > + ret = -ENOMEM;
> > +
> > + goto release_old;
> > + }
> > +
> > + /*
> > + * Locking rq ensures that rq->nr_pref_llc values
> > + * don't change with new task enqueue/dequeue
> > + * when we repopulate the newly enlarged array.
> > + */
> > + rq_lock_irqsave(rq, &rf);
> > + populate_new_pref_llcs(rq->nr_pref_llc, new);
> > + rq->nr_pref_llc = new;
> > + rq_unlock_irqrestore(rq, &rf);
> > + }
> > +
> > +release_old:
> > + /*
> > + * Load balance is done under rcu_lock.
> > + * Wait for load balance before and during resizing to
> > + * be done. They may refer to old nr_pref_llc[]
> > + * that hasn't been resized.
> > + */
> > + synchronize_rcu();
> > + for_each_present_cpu(i)
> > + kfree(*per_cpu_ptr(tmp_llc_pref, i));
> > +
> > + free_percpu(tmp_llc_pref);
> > +
> > + /* succeed and update */
> > + if (!ret)
> > + max_llcs = new_max_llcs;
> > +
> > + return ret;
> > +}
>
> Would it perhaps be easier to stick this thing in rq->sd rather than in
> rq->nr_pref_llc. That way it automagically switches with the 'new'
> domain. And then, with a bit of care, a singe load-balance pass should
> see a consistent view (there should not be reloads of rq->sd -- which
> will be a bit of an audit I suppose).
We need nr_pref_llc information at the runqueue level because the load balancer
must identify which specific rq has the largest number of tasks that
prefer a given destination LLC. If we move the counter to the LLC’s sd
level, we would only know the aggregate number of tasks in the entire LLC
that prefer that destination—not which rq they reside on. Without per-rq
counts, we would not be able to select the correct source rq to pull tasks from.
The only way this could work at the LLC-sd level is if all CPUs within
the LLC shared a single runqueue, which is not the case today.
Let me know if I understand your comments correctly.
Tim
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-10 18:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-03 23:07 [PATCH v2 00/23] Cache aware scheduling Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 01/23] sched/cache: Introduce infrastructure for cache-aware load balancing Tim Chen
2025-12-09 11:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-09 21:39 ` Tim Chen
2025-12-10 9:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 13:57 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-10 15:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-11 9:03 ` Vern Hao
2025-12-16 6:12 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-17 1:17 ` Vern Hao
2026-01-15 21:47 ` Tim Chen
[not found] ` <fbf52d91-0605-4608-b9cc-e8cc56115fd5@gmail.com>
2025-12-16 22:30 ` Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 02/23] sched/cache: Record per-LLC utilization to guide cache-aware scheduling decisions Tim Chen
2025-12-09 11:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 14:02 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-10 15:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 23:58 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 03/23] sched/cache: Introduce helper functions to enforce LLC migration policy Tim Chen
2026-01-22 18:13 ` Yangyu Chen
2026-01-22 20:43 ` Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 04/23] sched/cache: Make LLC id continuous Tim Chen
2025-12-09 11:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-15 20:49 ` Tim Chen
2025-12-16 5:31 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-16 19:53 ` Tim Chen
2025-12-17 5:25 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-23 5:31 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-12-24 7:08 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-24 8:19 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-12-24 9:46 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-26 3:17 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 05/23] sched/cache: Assign preferred LLC ID to processes Tim Chen
2025-12-09 12:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-09 22:34 ` Tim Chen
2025-12-12 3:34 ` Vern Hao
2025-12-15 19:32 ` Tim Chen
2025-12-19 4:01 ` Vern Hao
2025-12-24 10:20 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-01-07 4:49 ` Jianyong Wu
2026-01-07 8:38 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 06/23] sched/cache: Track LLC-preferred tasks per runqueue Tim Chen
2025-12-09 12:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-09 22:55 ` Tim Chen
2025-12-10 9:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-16 0:20 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-17 10:04 ` Vern Hao
2025-12-17 12:37 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 07/23] sched/cache: Introduce per runqueue task LLC preference counter Tim Chen
2025-12-09 13:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-09 23:17 ` Tim Chen
2025-12-10 12:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 18:36 ` Tim Chen
2025-12-10 12:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 18:49 ` Tim Chen [this message]
2025-12-11 10:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-15 19:21 ` Tim Chen
2025-12-16 22:45 ` Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 08/23] sched/cache: Calculate the per runqueue task LLC preference Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 09/23] sched/cache: Count tasks prefering destination LLC in a sched group Tim Chen
2025-12-10 12:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 14:05 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-10 15:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 19:00 ` Tim Chen
2025-12-10 23:50 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 10/23] sched/cache: Check local_group only once in update_sg_lb_stats() Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 11/23] sched/cache: Prioritize tasks preferring destination LLC during balancing Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 12/23] sched/cache: Add migrate_llc_task migration type for cache-aware balancing Tim Chen
2025-12-10 13:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-16 0:52 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 13/23] sched/cache: Handle moving single tasks to/from their preferred LLC Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 14/23] sched/cache: Consider LLC preference when selecting tasks for load balancing Tim Chen
2025-12-10 15:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 15/23] sched/cache: Respect LLC preference in task migration and detach Tim Chen
2025-12-10 16:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-16 7:30 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 16/23] sched/cache: Introduce sched_cache_present to enable cache aware scheduling for multi LLCs NUMA node Tim Chen
2025-12-10 16:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 16:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-16 7:36 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-16 7:31 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 17/23] sched/cache: Record the number of active threads per process for cache-aware scheduling Tim Chen
2025-12-10 16:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-16 7:40 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-17 9:40 ` Aaron Lu
2025-12-17 12:51 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-19 3:32 ` Aaron Lu
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 18/23] sched/cache: Disable cache aware scheduling for processes with high thread counts Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 19/23] sched/cache: Avoid cache-aware scheduling for memory-heavy processes Tim Chen
2025-12-18 3:59 ` Vern Hao
2025-12-18 8:32 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-18 9:42 ` Vern Hao
2025-12-19 3:14 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-12-19 12:55 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-22 2:49 ` Vern Hao
2025-12-22 2:19 ` Vern Hao
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 20/23] sched/cache: Add user control to adjust the parameters of cache-aware scheduling Tim Chen
2025-12-10 17:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-16 7:42 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-19 4:14 ` Vern Hao
2025-12-19 13:21 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-19 13:39 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-23 12:12 ` Yangyu Chen
2025-12-23 16:44 ` Yangyu Chen
2025-12-24 3:28 ` Yangyu Chen
2025-12-24 7:51 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-24 12:15 ` Yangyu Chen
2026-01-15 10:03 ` Jianyong Wu
2026-01-15 12:13 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-01-21 15:21 ` Yangyu Chen
2026-01-21 15:38 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 21/23] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/stats: Add schedstat for cache aware load balancing Tim Chen
2025-12-19 5:03 ` Yangyu Chen
2025-12-19 14:41 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-19 14:48 ` Yangyu Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 22/23] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Add ftrace to track the load balance statistics Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 23/23] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Display the per LLC occupancy for each process via proc fs Tim Chen
2025-12-17 9:59 ` Aaron Lu
2025-12-17 13:01 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-19 3:19 ` [PATCH v2 00/23] Cache aware scheduling Aaron Lu
2025-12-19 13:04 ` Chen, Yu C
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