From: "Chen, Yu C" <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
"K Prateek Nayak" <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
"Gautham R . Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
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Aaron Lu <ziqianlu@bytedance.com>,
Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@intel.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 09/23] sched/cache: Count tasks prefering destination LLC in a sched group
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2025 08:50:38 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ba3c2f89-12a8-40fd-9c46-d1f63dc307ae@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251210151621.GM3707837@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On 12/11/2025 12:16 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2025 at 11:05:33PM +0900, Chen, Yu C wrote:
>> On 12/10/2025 9:52 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>> On Wed, Dec 03, 2025 at 03:07:28PM -0800, Tim Chen wrote:
>>>> During LLC load balancing, tabulate the number of tasks on each runqueue
>>>> that prefer the LLC contains the env->dst_cpu in a sched group.
>>>>
>>>> For example, consider a system with 4 LLC sched groups (LLC0 to LLC3)
>>>> balancing towards LLC3. LLC0 has 3 tasks preferring LLC3, LLC1 has
>>>> 2, and LLC2 has 1. LLC0, having the most tasks preferring LLC3, is
>>>> selected as the busiest source to pick tasks from.
>>>>
>>>> Within a source LLC, the total number of tasks preferring a destination
>>>> LLC is computed by summing counts across all CPUs in that LLC. For
>>>> instance, if LLC0 has CPU0 with 2 tasks and CPU1 with 1 task preferring
>>>> LLC3, the total for LLC0 is 3.
>>>>
>>>> These statistics allow the load balancer to choose tasks from source
>>>> sched groups that best match their preferred LLCs.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> Notes:
>>>> v1->v2:
>>>> Convert nr_pref_llc array in sg_lb_stats to a single
>>>> variable as only the dst LLC stat is needed.
>>>> (K Prateek Nayak)
>>>>
>>>> kernel/sched/fair.c | 12 ++++++++++++
>>>> 1 file changed, 12 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>>>> index b0e87616e377..4d7803f69a74 100644
>>>> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
>>>> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>>>> @@ -10445,6 +10445,9 @@ struct sg_lb_stats {
>>>> unsigned int nr_numa_running;
>>>> unsigned int nr_preferred_running;
>>>> #endif
>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_CACHE
>>>> + unsigned int nr_pref_llc;
>>>> +#endif
>>>
>>> At this point I have to note that rq->nr_pref_llc seems like a horrible
>>> misnomer, for it being an array, and not an actual number like the
>>> naming suggests.
>>
>> In the v2 it seems that rq->nr_pref_llc is not an array anymore, it
>
> From two patches ago:
>
> + unsigned int *nr_pref_llc;
>
> Its a pointer of some sort.
>
>
Ah I see, I thought it was the variable in the sgs structure.
>> indicates
>> the number of tasks that want to be migrated to the env->dst_cpu (dst_llc),
>> because
>> these tasks' preferred LLC are env->dst_cpu(dst_llc). Maybe renaming it to
>> rq->nr_pref_dst_llc?
>
> Like I said in:
>
> https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20251210125114.GS3707891@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net
>
> it might make sense to put it in struct sched_domain instead of struct
> rq, since then you can allocate and swap it right along with the rest of
> the domain tree.
I'll think more about this. Currently the per cpu rq's nr_pref_llc is
used to
identify the "busiest" runqueue. The busiest runqueue has most threads
wanted
to be migrated to llc_id(env->dst_cpu), because the threads' preferred
LLC is
there - in this way, the migration success ratio to the preferred LLC
would be
higher without breaking the imbalance too much IMHO. So we might have to
track
the per cpu rq's statistics during enqueue/dequeue. If we put it in the
domain,
not sure how to track that.
Thanks,
Chenyu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-10 23:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-03 23:07 [PATCH v2 00/23] Cache aware scheduling Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 01/23] sched/cache: Introduce infrastructure for cache-aware load balancing Tim Chen
2025-12-09 11:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-09 21:39 ` Tim Chen
2025-12-10 9:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 13:57 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-10 15:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-11 9:03 ` Vern Hao
2025-12-16 6:12 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-17 1:17 ` Vern Hao
2026-01-15 21:47 ` Tim Chen
[not found] ` <fbf52d91-0605-4608-b9cc-e8cc56115fd5@gmail.com>
2025-12-16 22:30 ` Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 02/23] sched/cache: Record per-LLC utilization to guide cache-aware scheduling decisions Tim Chen
2025-12-09 11:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 14:02 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-10 15:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 23:58 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 03/23] sched/cache: Introduce helper functions to enforce LLC migration policy Tim Chen
2026-01-22 18:13 ` Yangyu Chen
2026-01-22 20:43 ` Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 04/23] sched/cache: Make LLC id continuous Tim Chen
2025-12-09 11:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-15 20:49 ` Tim Chen
2025-12-16 5:31 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-16 19:53 ` Tim Chen
2025-12-17 5:25 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-23 5:31 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-12-24 7:08 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-24 8:19 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-12-24 9:46 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-26 3:17 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 05/23] sched/cache: Assign preferred LLC ID to processes Tim Chen
2025-12-09 12:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-09 22:34 ` Tim Chen
2025-12-12 3:34 ` Vern Hao
2025-12-15 19:32 ` Tim Chen
2025-12-19 4:01 ` Vern Hao
2025-12-24 10:20 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-01-07 4:49 ` Jianyong Wu
2026-01-07 8:38 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 06/23] sched/cache: Track LLC-preferred tasks per runqueue Tim Chen
2025-12-09 12:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-09 22:55 ` Tim Chen
2025-12-10 9:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-16 0:20 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-17 10:04 ` Vern Hao
2025-12-17 12:37 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 07/23] sched/cache: Introduce per runqueue task LLC preference counter Tim Chen
2025-12-09 13:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-09 23:17 ` Tim Chen
2025-12-10 12:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 18:36 ` Tim Chen
2025-12-10 12:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 18:49 ` Tim Chen
2025-12-11 10:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-15 19:21 ` Tim Chen
2025-12-16 22:45 ` Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 08/23] sched/cache: Calculate the per runqueue task LLC preference Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 09/23] sched/cache: Count tasks prefering destination LLC in a sched group Tim Chen
2025-12-10 12:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 14:05 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-10 15:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 19:00 ` Tim Chen
2025-12-10 23:50 ` Chen, Yu C [this message]
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 10/23] sched/cache: Check local_group only once in update_sg_lb_stats() Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 11/23] sched/cache: Prioritize tasks preferring destination LLC during balancing Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 12/23] sched/cache: Add migrate_llc_task migration type for cache-aware balancing Tim Chen
2025-12-10 13:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-16 0:52 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 13/23] sched/cache: Handle moving single tasks to/from their preferred LLC Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 14/23] sched/cache: Consider LLC preference when selecting tasks for load balancing Tim Chen
2025-12-10 15:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 15/23] sched/cache: Respect LLC preference in task migration and detach Tim Chen
2025-12-10 16:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-16 7:30 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 16/23] sched/cache: Introduce sched_cache_present to enable cache aware scheduling for multi LLCs NUMA node Tim Chen
2025-12-10 16:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 16:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-16 7:36 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-16 7:31 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 17/23] sched/cache: Record the number of active threads per process for cache-aware scheduling Tim Chen
2025-12-10 16:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-16 7:40 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-17 9:40 ` Aaron Lu
2025-12-17 12:51 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-19 3:32 ` Aaron Lu
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 18/23] sched/cache: Disable cache aware scheduling for processes with high thread counts Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 19/23] sched/cache: Avoid cache-aware scheduling for memory-heavy processes Tim Chen
2025-12-18 3:59 ` Vern Hao
2025-12-18 8:32 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-18 9:42 ` Vern Hao
2025-12-19 3:14 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-12-19 12:55 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-22 2:49 ` Vern Hao
2025-12-22 2:19 ` Vern Hao
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 20/23] sched/cache: Add user control to adjust the parameters of cache-aware scheduling Tim Chen
2025-12-10 17:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-16 7:42 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-19 4:14 ` Vern Hao
2025-12-19 13:21 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-19 13:39 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-23 12:12 ` Yangyu Chen
2025-12-23 16:44 ` Yangyu Chen
2025-12-24 3:28 ` Yangyu Chen
2025-12-24 7:51 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-24 12:15 ` Yangyu Chen
2026-01-15 10:03 ` Jianyong Wu
2026-01-15 12:13 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-01-21 15:21 ` Yangyu Chen
2026-01-21 15:38 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 21/23] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/stats: Add schedstat for cache aware load balancing Tim Chen
2025-12-19 5:03 ` Yangyu Chen
2025-12-19 14:41 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-19 14:48 ` Yangyu Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 22/23] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Add ftrace to track the load balance statistics Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 23/23] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Display the per LLC occupancy for each process via proc fs Tim Chen
2025-12-17 9:59 ` Aaron Lu
2025-12-17 13:01 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-19 3:19 ` [PATCH v2 00/23] Cache aware scheduling Aaron Lu
2025-12-19 13:04 ` Chen, Yu C
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