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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	"Gautham R . Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
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	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>, Aubrey Li <aubrey.li@intel.com>,
	Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com>, Chen Yu <yu.chen.surf@gmail.com>,
	Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
	Adam Li <adamli@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	Aaron Lu <ziqianlu@bytedance.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 14/23] sched/cache: Consider LLC preference when selecting tasks for load balancing
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2025 16:58:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251210155848.GV3707891@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <048601436d24f19e84c0a002e1c5897f95853276.1764801860.git.tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>

On Wed, Dec 03, 2025 at 03:07:33PM -0800, Tim Chen wrote:
> Currently, task selection from the busiest runqueue ignores LLC
> preferences. Reorder tasks in the busiest queue to prioritize selection
> as follows:
> 
>   1. Tasks preferring the destination CPU's LLC
>   2. Tasks with no LLC preference
>   3. Tasks preferring an LLC different from their current one
>   4. Tasks preferring the LLC they are currently on
> 
> This improves the likelihood that tasks are migrated to their
> preferred LLC.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
> ---
> 
> Notes:
>     v1->v2: No change.
> 
>  kernel/sched/fair.c | 66 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>  1 file changed, 65 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> index aed3fab98d7c..dd09a816670e 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -10092,6 +10092,68 @@ static struct task_struct *detach_one_task(struct lb_env *env)
>  	return NULL;
>  }
>  
> +#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_CACHE
> +/*
> + * Prepare lists to detach tasks in the following order:
> + * 1. tasks that prefer dst cpu's LLC
> + * 2. tasks that have no preference in LLC
> + * 3. tasks that prefer LLC other than the ones they are on
> + * 4. tasks that prefer the LLC that they are currently on.
> + */
> +static struct list_head
> +*order_tasks_by_llc(struct lb_env *env, struct list_head *tasks)
> +{
> +	struct task_struct *p;
> +	LIST_HEAD(pref_old_llc);
> +	LIST_HEAD(pref_new_llc);
> +	LIST_HEAD(no_pref_llc);
> +	LIST_HEAD(pref_other_llc);
> +
> +	if (!sched_cache_enabled())
> +		return tasks;
> +
> +	if (cpus_share_cache(env->dst_cpu, env->src_cpu))
> +		return tasks;
> +
> +	while (!list_empty(tasks)) {
> +		p = list_last_entry(tasks, struct task_struct, se.group_node);
> +
> +		if (p->preferred_llc == llc_id(env->dst_cpu)) {
> +			list_move(&p->se.group_node, &pref_new_llc);
> +			continue;
> +		}
> +
> +		if (p->preferred_llc == llc_id(env->src_cpu)) {
> +			list_move(&p->se.group_node, &pref_old_llc);
> +			continue;
> +		}
> +
> +		if (p->preferred_llc == -1) {
> +			list_move(&p->se.group_node, &no_pref_llc);
> +			continue;
> +		}
> +
> +		list_move(&p->se.group_node, &pref_other_llc);
> +	}
> +
> +	/*
> +	 * We detach tasks from list tail in detach tasks.  Put tasks
> +	 * to be chosen first at end of list.
> +	 */
> +	list_splice(&pref_new_llc, tasks);
> +	list_splice(&no_pref_llc, tasks);
> +	list_splice(&pref_other_llc, tasks);
> +	list_splice(&pref_old_llc, tasks);
> +	return tasks;
> +}

> @@ -10119,6 +10181,8 @@ static int detach_tasks(struct lb_env *env)
>  	if (env->imbalance <= 0)
>  		return 0;
>  
> +	tasks = order_tasks_by_llc(env, &env->src_rq->cfs_tasks);
> +
>  	while (!list_empty(tasks)) {
>  		/*
>  		 * We don't want to steal all, otherwise we may be treated likewise,

Humrph. So NUMA balancing does this differently. It skips over the tasks
that would degrade locality in can_migrate_task(); and only if
nr_balanced_failed is high enough do we ignore that.

Also, if there are a significant number of tasks on the list, this gets
in the way of things like loop_break, since it does this sort
unconditionally.

Bah, this feels like there is a sane way to integrate all this, but it
seems to escape me at the moment. I'll ponder it a bit more.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-10 15:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-03 23:07 [PATCH v2 00/23] Cache aware scheduling Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 01/23] sched/cache: Introduce infrastructure for cache-aware load balancing Tim Chen
2025-12-09 11:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-09 21:39     ` Tim Chen
2025-12-10  9:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 13:57     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-10 15:11       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-11  9:03   ` Vern Hao
2025-12-16  6:12     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-17  1:17       ` Vern Hao
2026-01-15 21:47         ` Tim Chen
     [not found]   ` <fbf52d91-0605-4608-b9cc-e8cc56115fd5@gmail.com>
2025-12-16 22:30     ` Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 02/23] sched/cache: Record per-LLC utilization to guide cache-aware scheduling decisions Tim Chen
2025-12-09 11:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 14:02     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-10 15:13       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 23:58         ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 03/23] sched/cache: Introduce helper functions to enforce LLC migration policy Tim Chen
2026-01-22 18:13   ` Yangyu Chen
2026-01-22 20:43     ` Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 04/23] sched/cache: Make LLC id continuous Tim Chen
2025-12-09 11:58   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-15 20:49     ` Tim Chen
2025-12-16  5:31       ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-16 19:53         ` Tim Chen
2025-12-17  5:25           ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-23  5:31   ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-12-24  7:08     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-24  8:19       ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-12-24  9:46         ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-26  3:17           ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 05/23] sched/cache: Assign preferred LLC ID to processes Tim Chen
2025-12-09 12:11   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-09 22:34     ` Tim Chen
2025-12-12  3:34   ` Vern Hao
2025-12-15 19:32     ` Tim Chen
2025-12-19  4:01       ` Vern Hao
2025-12-24 10:20         ` Chen, Yu C
2026-01-07  4:49   ` Jianyong Wu
2026-01-07  8:38     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 06/23] sched/cache: Track LLC-preferred tasks per runqueue Tim Chen
2025-12-09 12:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-09 22:55     ` Tim Chen
2025-12-10  9:42       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-16  0:20         ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-17 10:04   ` Vern Hao
2025-12-17 12:37     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 07/23] sched/cache: Introduce per runqueue task LLC preference counter Tim Chen
2025-12-09 13:06   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-09 23:17     ` Tim Chen
2025-12-10 12:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 18:36     ` Tim Chen
2025-12-10 12:51   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 18:49     ` Tim Chen
2025-12-11 10:31       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-15 19:21         ` Tim Chen
2025-12-16 22:45         ` Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 08/23] sched/cache: Calculate the per runqueue task LLC preference Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 09/23] sched/cache: Count tasks prefering destination LLC in a sched group Tim Chen
2025-12-10 12:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 14:05     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-10 15:16       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 19:00         ` Tim Chen
2025-12-10 23:50         ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 10/23] sched/cache: Check local_group only once in update_sg_lb_stats() Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 11/23] sched/cache: Prioritize tasks preferring destination LLC during balancing Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 12/23] sched/cache: Add migrate_llc_task migration type for cache-aware balancing Tim Chen
2025-12-10 13:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-16  0:52     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 13/23] sched/cache: Handle moving single tasks to/from their preferred LLC Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 14/23] sched/cache: Consider LLC preference when selecting tasks for load balancing Tim Chen
2025-12-10 15:58   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 15/23] sched/cache: Respect LLC preference in task migration and detach Tim Chen
2025-12-10 16:30   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-16  7:30     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 16/23] sched/cache: Introduce sched_cache_present to enable cache aware scheduling for multi LLCs NUMA node Tim Chen
2025-12-10 16:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-10 16:52     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-16  7:36       ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-16  7:31     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 17/23] sched/cache: Record the number of active threads per process for cache-aware scheduling Tim Chen
2025-12-10 16:51   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-16  7:40     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-17  9:40   ` Aaron Lu
2025-12-17 12:51     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-19  3:32       ` Aaron Lu
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 18/23] sched/cache: Disable cache aware scheduling for processes with high thread counts Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 19/23] sched/cache: Avoid cache-aware scheduling for memory-heavy processes Tim Chen
2025-12-18  3:59   ` Vern Hao
2025-12-18  8:32     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-18  9:42       ` Vern Hao
2025-12-19  3:14         ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-12-19 12:55           ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-22  2:49             ` Vern Hao
2025-12-22  2:19           ` Vern Hao
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 20/23] sched/cache: Add user control to adjust the parameters of cache-aware scheduling Tim Chen
2025-12-10 17:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-16  7:42     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-19  4:14   ` Vern Hao
2025-12-19 13:21     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-19 13:39     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-23 12:12   ` Yangyu Chen
2025-12-23 16:44     ` Yangyu Chen
2025-12-24  3:28       ` Yangyu Chen
2025-12-24  7:51         ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-24 12:15           ` Yangyu Chen
2026-01-15 10:03   ` Jianyong Wu
2026-01-15 12:13     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-01-21 15:21   ` Yangyu Chen
2026-01-21 15:38     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 21/23] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/stats: Add schedstat for cache aware load balancing Tim Chen
2025-12-19  5:03   ` Yangyu Chen
2025-12-19 14:41     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-19 14:48       ` Yangyu Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 22/23] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Add ftrace to track the load balance statistics Tim Chen
2025-12-03 23:07 ` [PATCH v2 23/23] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Display the per LLC occupancy for each process via proc fs Tim Chen
2025-12-17  9:59   ` Aaron Lu
2025-12-17 13:01     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-12-19  3:19 ` [PATCH v2 00/23] Cache aware scheduling Aaron Lu
2025-12-19 13:04   ` Chen, Yu C

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