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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	David.Kaplan@amd.com, Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com,
	jpoimboe@kernel.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, matz@suse.de,
	joao.moreira@intel.com, samitolvanen@google.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 02/17] x86/cpu: Clean up SRSO return thunk mess
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2023 13:20:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230812112057.GA749618@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKwvOd=UXhDShdPsofrWScxdF-mTNnDTCNYZDP1rAhhKCB7jVA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 10:00:31AM -0700, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 12:01 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 02:37:56PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >
> > > After this patch things look equivalent to:
> > >
> > > SYM_FUNC_START(foo)
> > >       ...
> > >       ALTERNATIVE "ret; int3"
> > >                   "jmp __x86_return_thunk", X86_FEATURE_RETHUNK
> > >                   "jmp srso_return_thunk, X86_FEATURE_SRSO
> > >                   "jmp srsi_alias_return_thunk", X86_FEATURE_SRSO_ALIAS
> > > SYM_FUNC_END(foo)
> > >
> > > SYM_CODE_START(srso_return_thunk)
> > >       UNWIND_HINT_FUNC
> > >       ANNOTATE_NOENDBR
> > >       call srso_safe_ret;
> > >       ud2
> > > SYM_CODE_END(srso_return_thunk)
> > >
> > > SYM_CODE_START(srso_alias_return_thunk)
> > >       UNWIND_HINT_FUNC
> > >       ANNOTATE_NOENDBR
> > >       call srso_alias_safe_ret;
> > >       ud2
> > > SYM_CODE_END(srso_alias_return_thunk)
> > >
> >
> > So it looks like the compilers are still not emitting int3 after jmp,
> > even with the SLS options enabled :/
> >
> > This means the tail end of functions compiled with:
> >
> >   -mharden-sls=all -mfunction-return=thunk-extern
> >
> > Is still a regular: jmp __x86_return_thunk, no trailing trap.
> >
> >   https://godbolt.org/z/Ecqv76YbE
> 
> I don't have time to finish this today, but
> https://reviews.llvm.org/D157734 should do what you're looking for, I
> think.

Hmm, so your wording seems to imply regular SLS would already emit INT3
after jump, but I'm not seeing that in clang-16 output. Should I upgrade
my llvm?

[[edit]] Oooh, now I see, regular SLS would emit RET; INT3, but what I'm
alluding to was that sls=all should also emit INT3 after every JMP due
to AMD BTC. This is an SLS option that seems to have gone missing in
both compilers for a long while.


And yesterday I only quickly looked at bigger gcc output and not clang.
But when I look at clang-16 output I see things like:

1053:       2e e8 00 00 00 00       cs call 1059 <yield_to+0xe9>    1055: R_X86_64_PLT32    __x86_indirect_thunk_r11-0x4
1059:       84 c0                   test   %al,%al
105b:       74 1c                   je     1079 <yield_to+0x109>
105d:       eb 6e                   jmp    10cd <yield_to+0x15d>

No INT3

105f:       41 bc 01 00 00 00       mov    $0x1,%r12d
1065:       80 7c 24 04 00          cmpb   $0x0,0x4(%rsp)
106a:       74 0d                   je     1079 <yield_to+0x109>
106c:       4d 39 fe                cmp    %r15,%r14
106f:       74 08                   je     1079 <yield_to+0x109>
1071:       4c 89 ff                mov    %r15,%rdi
1074:       e8 00 00 00 00          call   1079 <yield_to+0x109>    1075: R_X86_64_PLT32    resched_curr-0x4
1079:       4d 39 fe                cmp    %r15,%r14
107c:       74 08                   je     1086 <yield_to+0x116>
107e:       4c 89 ff                mov    %r15,%rdi
1081:       e8 00 00 00 00          call   1086 <yield_to+0x116>    1082: R_X86_64_PLT32    _raw_spin_unlock-0x4
1086:       4c 89 f7                mov    %r14,%rdi
1089:       e8 00 00 00 00          call   108e <yield_to+0x11e>    108a: R_X86_64_PLT32    _raw_spin_unlock-0x4
108e:       f7 c3 00 02 00 00       test   $0x200,%ebx
1094:       74 06                   je     109c <yield_to+0x12c>
1096:       ff 15 00 00 00 00       call   *0x0(%rip)        # 109c <yield_to+0x12c>        1098: R_X86_64_PC32     pv_ops+0xfc
109c:       45 85 e4                test   %r12d,%r12d
109f:       7e 05                   jle    10a6 <yield_to+0x136>
10a1:       e8 00 00 00 00          call   10a6 <yield_to+0x136>    10a2: R_X86_64_PLT32    schedule-0x4
10a6:       44 89 e0                mov    %r12d,%eax
10a9:       48 83 c4 08             add    $0x8,%rsp
10ad:       5b                      pop    %rbx
10ae:       41 5c                   pop    %r12
10b0:       41 5d                   pop    %r13
10b2:       41 5e                   pop    %r14
10b4:       41 5f                   pop    %r15
10b6:       5d                      pop    %rbp
10b7:       2e e9 00 00 00 00       cs jmp 10bd <yield_to+0x14d>    10b9: R_X86_64_PLT32    __x86_return_thunk-0x4

CS padding!!

10bd:       41 bc fd ff ff ff       mov    $0xfffffffd,%r12d
10c3:       f7 c3 00 02 00 00       test   $0x200,%ebx


So since you (surprisingly!) CS pad the return thunk, I *could* pull it
off there, 6 bytes is enough space to write: 'CALL foo; INT3'

But really SLS *should* put INT3 after every JMP instruction -- of
course including the return thunk one.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-12 11:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-09  7:12 [RFC][PATCH 00/17] Fix up the recent SRSO patches Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09  7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 01/17] x86/alternative: Unconditional custom return thunk Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09  9:31   ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-08-10 11:37   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-09  7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 02/17] x86/cpu: Clean up SRSO return thunk mess Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 15:45   ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-08-10 11:51   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-10 12:37     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-10 12:56       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-10 13:22         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-11  7:01       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-11 17:00         ` Nick Desaulniers
2023-08-12 11:20           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2023-08-09  7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 03/17] x86/cpu: Make srso_untrain_ret consistent Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-10 12:00   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-09  7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 04/17] objtool/x86: Fix SRSO mess Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-10 12:06   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-10 12:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-10 12:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-10 15:02         ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-10 15:22           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09  7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 05/17] x86/cpu: Cleanup the untrain mess Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 12:51   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-09 13:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 13:26       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-12 18:30         ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-09  7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 06/17] x86/cpu: Add SRSO untrain to retbleed= Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 13:42   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-09 14:06     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 14:28       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-09 15:08         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 15:43           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-09 14:31     ` Andrew.Cooper3
2023-08-09 14:39       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-10 15:44   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-10 16:10     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-11 10:27       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-12 11:32         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-12 12:12           ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-14 15:45           ` David Laight
2023-08-12 11:24       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-12 12:10         ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-14 10:56           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09  7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 07/17] x86/cpu/kvm: Provide UNTRAIN_RET_VM Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 13:50   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-09 14:06     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 14:30       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-09 15:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-13 10:36   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-14 10:35     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09  7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 08/17] x86/cpu: Add IBPB on VMEXIT to retbleed= Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09  7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 09/17] x86: Remove CONFIG_CPU_SRSO Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 13:57   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-09  7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 10/17] x86: Remove CPU_IBPB_ENTRY Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09  7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 11/17] x86/cpu: Remove all SRSO interface nonsense Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 13:10   ` Andrew.Cooper3
2023-08-09 13:36     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 14:05   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-09 14:43     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 14:51       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-09 15:34   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-09  7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 12/17] x86/cpu: Rename original retbleed return thunk Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 14:20   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-09 14:22     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-10 11:06       ` Andrew.Cooper3
2023-08-10 13:02         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-13 15:23           ` Andrew.Cooper3
2023-08-14 10:34             ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-14 11:31               ` Andrew.Cooper3
2023-08-14 12:06                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09  7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 13/17] objtool/x86: Add arch_is_offset_insn() Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09  9:56   ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-08-09 14:34   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-09  7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 14/17] objtool: Add comments to the arch_is_$foo() magic symbols Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09  7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 15/17] x86/cpu: Rename srso_(.*)_alias to srso_alias_\1 Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09  7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 16/17] x86/alternatives: Simplify ALTERNATIVE_n() Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09  7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 17/17] x86/cpu: Use fancy alternatives to get rid of entry_untrain_ret() Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09  9:04 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/17] Fix up the recent SRSO patches Nikolay Borisov
2023-08-09 10:04 ` Andrew.Cooper3
2023-08-09 11:58   ` Peter Zijlstra

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