From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
David.Kaplan@amd.com, Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com,
gregkh@linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 06/17] x86/cpu: Add SRSO untrain to retbleed=
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 12:56:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230814105636.GE776869@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230812121034.GDZNd2umHEqcQNaFbJ@fat_crate.local>
On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 02:10:34PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 01:24:04PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > That very experience wants me to avoid doing it again :-/ But you all
> > really want to keep the parameter, can we at least rename it something
> > you can remember how to type, like 'srso=' instead of this horrific
> > 'spec_rstack_overflow=' thing?
>
> I'm all for short'n'sweet but last time I did that, Linus said we should
> have option names which aren't abbreviations which don't mean anything.
So:
1) do you guys really want to keep this extra argument?
2) if so, can we *PLEASE* rename it, because the current naming *SUCKS*.
I really don't see the need for an extra feature, we can trivially fold
the whole thing into retbleed, that's already 2 issues, might as well
make it 3 :-)
If we're going to rename, how about we simply call it 'inception' then
we haz both 'retbleed=' and 'inception=' and we're consistent here. Then
I'll make a compromise and do:
's/zen_\(untrain_ret\|return_thunk\)/btc_\1/g'
so that the actual mitigations have the official amd name on them --
however much I disagree with calling this branch-type-confusion.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-08-14 10:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-09 7:12 [RFC][PATCH 00/17] Fix up the recent SRSO patches Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 01/17] x86/alternative: Unconditional custom return thunk Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 9:31 ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-08-10 11:37 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-09 7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 02/17] x86/cpu: Clean up SRSO return thunk mess Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 15:45 ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-08-10 11:51 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-10 12:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-10 12:56 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-10 13:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-11 7:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-11 17:00 ` Nick Desaulniers
2023-08-12 11:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 03/17] x86/cpu: Make srso_untrain_ret consistent Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-10 12:00 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-09 7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 04/17] objtool/x86: Fix SRSO mess Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-10 12:06 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-10 12:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-10 12:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-10 15:02 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-10 15:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 05/17] x86/cpu: Cleanup the untrain mess Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 12:51 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-09 13:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 13:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-12 18:30 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-09 7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 06/17] x86/cpu: Add SRSO untrain to retbleed= Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 13:42 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-09 14:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 14:28 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-09 15:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 15:43 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-09 14:31 ` Andrew.Cooper3
2023-08-09 14:39 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-10 15:44 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-10 16:10 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-11 10:27 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-12 11:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-12 12:12 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-14 15:45 ` David Laight
2023-08-12 11:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-12 12:10 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-14 10:56 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2023-08-09 7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 07/17] x86/cpu/kvm: Provide UNTRAIN_RET_VM Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 13:50 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-09 14:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 14:30 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-09 15:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-13 10:36 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-14 10:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 08/17] x86/cpu: Add IBPB on VMEXIT to retbleed= Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 09/17] x86: Remove CONFIG_CPU_SRSO Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 13:57 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-09 7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 10/17] x86: Remove CPU_IBPB_ENTRY Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 11/17] x86/cpu: Remove all SRSO interface nonsense Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 13:10 ` Andrew.Cooper3
2023-08-09 13:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 14:05 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-09 14:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 14:51 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-09 15:34 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-09 7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 12/17] x86/cpu: Rename original retbleed return thunk Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 14:20 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-09 14:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-10 11:06 ` Andrew.Cooper3
2023-08-10 13:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-13 15:23 ` Andrew.Cooper3
2023-08-14 10:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-14 11:31 ` Andrew.Cooper3
2023-08-14 12:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 13/17] objtool/x86: Add arch_is_offset_insn() Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 9:56 ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-08-09 14:34 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-09 7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 14/17] objtool: Add comments to the arch_is_$foo() magic symbols Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 15/17] x86/cpu: Rename srso_(.*)_alias to srso_alias_\1 Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 16/17] x86/alternatives: Simplify ALTERNATIVE_n() Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 7:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 17/17] x86/cpu: Use fancy alternatives to get rid of entry_untrain_ret() Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-09 9:04 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/17] Fix up the recent SRSO patches Nikolay Borisov
2023-08-09 10:04 ` Andrew.Cooper3
2023-08-09 11:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
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