From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
boqun@kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Cc: Hyunwoo Kim" <imv4bel@gmail.com>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch V2 1/8] signal: Prevent exec() race
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2026 12:22:03 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260911102203.GF1837346@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aqPQrGWqKfX_5MMj@localhost.localdomain>
On Fri, Sep 11, 2026 at 11:58:04AM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> Le Thu, Sep 10, 2026 at 03:28:43PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra a écrit :
> > The way data dependencies work in this case is a LOAD->LOAD ordering.
> > The LOAD-ACQUIRE that is part of LOCK must happen after the initial
> > load. And then the later load is constrained by the ACQUIRE.
> >
> > So LOAD(B) must resolve in order to do LOAD_ACQUIRE(B->lock.value).
>
> Ok I must confess that's not a pattern I'm used to and therefore it's
> still a bit counter-intuitive to me. I hope we can document that somehow
> somewhere.
One way of looking at it is the computation for the address of
&B->lock.value.
A void *r = LOAD(B); // B
B r += offsetof(typeof(*B), lock); // &B->lock
spin_lock(r)
C r += offsetof(typeof(B->lock), value); // &B->lock.value
for (;;)
D v = LOAD_ACQUIRE(r);
if (!v && !cmpxchg_relaxed(r, 0, 1))
break;
cpu_relax();
Note how the LOAD_ACQUIRE() at D depends on the computation of C, and B,
which in turn depend on the load of A.
If A does not complete, B,C cannot compute the address for the load of
D. Therefore A must come before D.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-11 10:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-05 18:58 [patch V2 0/8] exec/exit: POSIX timer related bugfixes and related cleanups Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 1/8] signal: Prevent exec() race Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-06 13:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-06 22:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2026-09-06 23:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-07 11:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-07 12:31 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-07 15:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-07 20:15 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-07 22:28 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-08 10:15 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 0:03 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-09 9:17 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 8:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 9:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-09 9:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 10:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 11:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-09 12:13 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 12:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 12:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-09 13:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-09 15:48 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 16:00 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 14:33 ` Alan Stern
2026-09-09 14:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 19:28 ` Alan Stern
2026-09-09 20:49 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-09 21:11 ` Alan Stern
2026-09-10 13:21 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-10 13:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-11 9:58 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-11 10:22 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-09-11 12:36 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-10 15:26 ` Alan Stern
2026-09-11 12:27 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 10:18 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-09 9:11 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 2/8] exec: Cleanup POSIX timers right after de_thread() Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-06 13:21 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-07 22:13 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 3/8] posix-timers: Move posixtimer_exec_cleanup() out of exec.c Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-10 13:50 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 4/8] posix-timers: Move POSIX timer group exit related code out of do_exit() Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-10 13:59 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 5/8] posix-cpu-timers: Move inlines out of public header Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-10 14:00 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 6/8] posix-cpu-timers: Use PF_EXITING to indicate exit Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 7/8] posix-cpu-timers: Prevent enqueueing when PF_EXITING is set Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-06 16:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-07 12:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-05 18:59 ` [patch V2 8/8] posix-timers: Handle exit in do_exit() completely Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-06 16:40 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-07 12:27 ` Thomas Gleixner
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