From: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
To: "Chen, Yu C" <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
Cc: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
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Libo Chen <libchen@purestorage.com>,
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Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Gautham R . Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 04/21] sched/cache: Make LLC id continuous
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2026 13:39:45 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6a73ac0d-1fc9-49a7-87a2-65951ab2c844@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <95923e36-4117-4209-97aa-a92b60f2bd49@intel.com>
Hello Chenyu,
On 2/17/2026 11:37 AM, Chen, Yu C wrote:
> Hi Prateek,
>
> On 2/16/2026 3:44 PM, K Prateek Nayak wrote:
>> Hello Tim, Chenyu,
>>
>> On 2/11/2026 3:48 AM, Tim Chen wrote:
>>> From: Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
>>>
>>> Introduce an index mapping between CPUs and their LLCs. This provides
>>> a continuous per LLC index needed for cache-aware load balancing in
>>> later patches.
>>>
>>> The existing per_cpu llc_id usually points to the first CPU of the
>>> LLC domain, which is sparse and unsuitable as an array index. Using
>>> llc_id directly would waste memory.
>>>
>>> With the new mapping, CPUs in the same LLC share a continuous id:
>>>
>>> per_cpu(llc_id, CPU=0...15) = 0
>>> per_cpu(llc_id, CPU=16...31) = 1
>>> per_cpu(llc_id, CPU=32...47) = 2
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Once a CPU has been assigned an llc_id, this ID persists even when
>>> the CPU is taken offline and brought back online, which can facilitate
>>> the management of the ID.
>>>
>>> Co-developed-by: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
>>> Co-developed-by: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Notes:
>>> v2->v3:
>>> Allocate the LLC id according to the topology level data directly, rather
>>> than calculating from the sched domain. This simplifies the code.
>>> (Peter Zijlstra, K Prateek Nayak)
>>>
>>> kernel/sched/topology.c | 47 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
>>> 1 file changed, 44 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/topology.c b/kernel/sched/topology.c
>>> index cf643a5ddedd..ca46b5cf7f78 100644
>>> --- a/kernel/sched/topology.c
>>> +++ b/kernel/sched/topology.c
>>> @@ -20,6 +20,7 @@ void sched_domains_mutex_unlock(void)
>>> /* Protected by sched_domains_mutex: */
>>> static cpumask_var_t sched_domains_tmpmask;
>>> static cpumask_var_t sched_domains_tmpmask2;
>>> +static int tl_max_llcs;
>>> static int __init sched_debug_setup(char *str)
>>> {
>>> @@ -658,7 +659,7 @@ static void destroy_sched_domains(struct sched_domain *sd)
>>> */
>>> DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct sched_domain __rcu *, sd_llc);
>>> DEFINE_PER_CPU(int, sd_llc_size);
>>> -DEFINE_PER_CPU(int, sd_llc_id);
>>> +DEFINE_PER_CPU(int, sd_llc_id) = -1;
>>> DEFINE_PER_CPU(int, sd_share_id);
>>> DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct sched_domain_shared __rcu *, sd_llc_shared);
>>> DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct sched_domain __rcu *, sd_numa);
>>> @@ -684,7 +685,6 @@ static void update_top_cache_domain(int cpu)
>>> rcu_assign_pointer(per_cpu(sd_llc, cpu), sd);
>>> per_cpu(sd_llc_size, cpu) = size;
>>> - per_cpu(sd_llc_id, cpu) = id;
>>> rcu_assign_pointer(per_cpu(sd_llc_shared, cpu), sds);
>>> sd = lowest_flag_domain(cpu, SD_CLUSTER);
>>> @@ -2567,10 +2567,18 @@ build_sched_domains(const struct cpumask *cpu_map, struct sched_domain_attr *att
>>> /* Set up domains for CPUs specified by the cpu_map: */
>>> for_each_cpu(i, cpu_map) {
>>> - struct sched_domain_topology_level *tl;
>>> + struct sched_domain_topology_level *tl, *tl_llc = NULL;
>>> + int lid;
>>> sd = NULL;
>>> for_each_sd_topology(tl) {
>>> + int flags = 0;
>>> +
>>> + if (tl->sd_flags)
>>> + flags = (*tl->sd_flags)();
>>> +
>>> + if (flags & SD_SHARE_LLC)
>>> + tl_llc = tl;
>>
>> nit. This loop breaks out when sched_domain_span(sd) covers the entire
>> cpu_map and it might have not reached the topmost SD_SHARE_LLC domain
>> yet. Is that cause for any concern?
>>
>
> Could you please elaborate a little more on this? If it covers the
> entire cpu_map shouldn't it stop going up to its parent domain?
> Do you mean, sd_llc_1 and its parent sd_llc_2 could cover the same cpu_map,
> and we should let tl_llc to assigned to sd_llc_2 (sd_llc_1 be degenerated? )
I'm not sure if this is technically possible but assume following
topology:
[ LLC: 8-15 ]
[ SMT: 8,9 ][ SMT: 10,11 ] ... [ SMT: 14,15 ]
and the following series of events:
o All CPUs in LLC are offline to begin with (maxcpus = 1 like scenario).
o CPUs 10-15 are onlined first.
o CPU8 is put in a separate root partition and brought online.
(XXX: I'm not 100% sure if this is possible in this order)
o build_sched_domains() will bail out at SMT domain since the cpumap
is covered by tl->mask() and tl_llc = tl_smt.
o llc_id calculation uses the tl_smt->mask() which will not contain
CPUs 10-15 and CPU8 will get a unique LLC id even though there are
other online CPUs in the LLC with a different llc_id (!!!)
Instead, if we traversed to tl_mc, we would have seen all the online
CPUs in the MC and reused the llc_id from them. Might not be an issue on
its own but if this root partition is removed later, CPU8 will continue
to have the unique llc_id even after merging into the same MC domain.
[..snip..]
>>
>> It doesn't compact tl_max_llcs, but it should promote reuse of llc_id if
>> all CPUs of a LLC go offline. I know it is a ridiculous scenario but it
>> is possible nonetheless.
>>
>> I'll let Peter and Valentin be the judge of additional space and
>> complexity needed for these bits :-)
>>
>
> Smart approach! Dynamically reallocating the llc_id should be feasible,
> as it releases the llc_id when the last CPU of that LLC is offlined. My
> only concern is data synchronization issues arising from the reuse of
> llc_id during load balancing - I’ll audit the logic to check for any race
> conditions. Alternatively, what if we introduce a tl->static_mask? It would
> be similar to tl->mask, but would not remove CPUs from static_mask when they
> are offlined. This way, we can always find and reuse the llc_id of CPUs in
> that LLC (even if all CPUs in the LLC have been offlined at some point,
> provided they were once online), and we would thus maintain a static llc_id.
That is possible but it would require a larger arch/ wide audit to add
support for. Might be less complex to handle in the generic layer but
again I'll let Peter and Valentin comment on this part :-)
>
> Anyway, let do some testings on your proposal as well as static_mask things,
> and I'll reply to this thread later. Thanks for the insights!
Thanks a ton! Much appreciated.
--
Thanks and Regards,
Prateek
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Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-10 22:18 [PATCH v3 00/21] Cache Aware Scheduling Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 01/21] sched/cache: Introduce infrastructure for cache-aware load balancing Tim Chen
2026-02-14 12:26 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-14 15:34 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-17 18:51 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 02/21] sched/cache: Record per LLC utilization to guide cache aware scheduling decisions Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 03/21] sched/cache: Introduce helper functions to enforce LLC migration policy Tim Chen
2026-02-14 16:12 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-15 12:14 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 11:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 14:48 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 14:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 04/21] sched/cache: Make LLC id continuous Tim Chen
2026-02-14 17:53 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-15 14:25 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-17 10:05 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-17 21:20 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-16 7:44 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-17 6:07 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-17 8:09 ` K Prateek Nayak [this message]
2026-02-17 23:12 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-18 3:28 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-18 15:22 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-18 17:46 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-18 23:21 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 6:12 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-19 15:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 0:11 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 11:25 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 16:10 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-18 18:45 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-18 21:33 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-18 15:11 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 15:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 15:22 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 15:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 15:53 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-20 16:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 16:10 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-20 19:24 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20 19:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 19:35 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 11:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 18:17 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 14:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 15:20 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 19:20 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 21:04 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20 17:17 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 05/21] sched/cache: Assign preferred LLC ID to processes Tim Chen
2026-02-14 18:36 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-16 6:58 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 06/21] sched/cache: Track LLC-preferred tasks per runqueue Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 07/21] sched/cache: Introduce per CPU's tasks LLC preference counter Tim Chen
2026-02-20 10:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 16:57 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-20 18:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 08/21] sched/cache: Calculate the percpu sd task LLC preference Tim Chen
2026-02-20 11:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 14:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 17:25 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 09/21] sched/cache: Count tasks prefering destination LLC in a sched group Tim Chen
2026-02-20 12:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 13:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-21 2:53 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 10/21] sched/cache: Check local_group only once in update_sg_lb_stats() Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 11/21] sched/cache: Prioritize tasks preferring destination LLC during balancing Tim Chen
2026-02-17 18:33 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-17 21:45 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 12/21] sched/cache: Add migrate_llc_task migration type for cache-aware balancing Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 13/21] sched/cache: Handle moving single tasks to/from their preferred LLC Tim Chen
2026-02-17 19:00 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-17 22:04 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20 13:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 18:22 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 14/21] sched/cache: Respect LLC preference in task migration and detach Tim Chen
2026-02-18 9:14 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-18 15:34 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 15/21] sched/cache: Disable cache aware scheduling for processes with high thread counts Tim Chen
2026-02-18 17:54 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-18 21:44 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 2:28 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-19 14:38 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 21:12 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 16:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 7:02 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-19 16:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 6:40 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-20 9:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-24 9:42 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-19 16:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 21:06 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 16/21] sched/cache: Avoid cache-aware scheduling for memory-heavy processes Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 17/21] sched/cache: Enable cache aware scheduling for multi LLCs NUMA node Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 18/21] sched/cache: Allow the user space to turn on and off cache aware scheduling Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 19/21] sched/cache: Add user control to adjust the aggressiveness of cache-aware scheduling Tim Chen
2026-02-20 14:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 18:18 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:19 ` [PATCH v3 20/21] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Display the per LLC occupancy for each process via proc fs Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:19 ` [PATCH v3 21/21] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Add ftrace to track the load balance statistics Tim Chen
2026-02-19 14:08 ` [PATCH v3 00/21] Cache Aware Scheduling Qais Yousef
2026-02-19 14:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 15:07 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 18:11 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20 3:29 ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-20 9:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-24 2:49 ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-20 18:14 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-24 3:02 ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-20 3:25 ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-21 2:48 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-24 3:11 ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-19 19:48 ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-19 21:47 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20 3:41 ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-20 8:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-24 3:31 ` Qais Yousef
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