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From: "Chen, Yu C" <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
To: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
Cc: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Madadi Vineeth Reddy <vineethr@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Hillf Danton" <hdanton@sina.com>,
	Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Jianyong Wu" <jianyong.wu@outlook.com>,
	Yangyu Chen <cyy@cyyself.name>,
	Tingyin Duan <tingyin.duan@gmail.com>,
	Vern Hao <vernhao@tencent.com>, Vern Hao <haoxing990@gmail.com>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>, Aubrey Li <aubrey.li@intel.com>,
	Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com>, Chen Yu <yu.chen.surf@gmail.com>,
	Adam Li <adamli@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	Aaron Lu <ziqianlu@bytedance.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@intel.com>, Josh Don <joshdon@google.com>,
	Gavin Guo <gavinguo@igalia.com>,
	Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>,
	Libo Chen <libchen@purestorage.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Gautham R . Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 04/21] sched/cache: Make LLC id continuous
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2026 14:07:22 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <95923e36-4117-4209-97aa-a92b60f2bd49@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <79755f7d-cc68-4189-b6d8-850378e54017@amd.com>

Hi Prateek,

On 2/16/2026 3:44 PM, K Prateek Nayak wrote:
> Hello Tim, Chenyu,
> 
> On 2/11/2026 3:48 AM, Tim Chen wrote:
>> From: Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
>>
>> Introduce an index mapping between CPUs and their LLCs. This provides
>> a continuous per LLC index needed for cache-aware load balancing in
>> later patches.
>>
>> The existing per_cpu llc_id usually points to the first CPU of the
>> LLC domain, which is sparse and unsuitable as an array index. Using
>> llc_id directly would waste memory.
>>
>> With the new mapping, CPUs in the same LLC share a continuous id:
>>
>>    per_cpu(llc_id, CPU=0...15)  = 0
>>    per_cpu(llc_id, CPU=16...31) = 1
>>    per_cpu(llc_id, CPU=32...47) = 2
>>    ...
>>
>> Once a CPU has been assigned an llc_id, this ID persists even when
>> the CPU is taken offline and brought back online, which can facilitate
>> the management of the ID.
>>
>> Co-developed-by: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
>> Co-developed-by: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
>> Signed-off-by: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
>> ---
>>
>> Notes:
>>      v2->v3:
>>      Allocate the LLC id according to the topology level data directly, rather
>>      than calculating from the sched domain. This simplifies the code.
>>      (Peter Zijlstra, K Prateek Nayak)
>>
>>   kernel/sched/topology.c | 47 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
>>   1 file changed, 44 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/topology.c b/kernel/sched/topology.c
>> index cf643a5ddedd..ca46b5cf7f78 100644
>> --- a/kernel/sched/topology.c
>> +++ b/kernel/sched/topology.c
>> @@ -20,6 +20,7 @@ void sched_domains_mutex_unlock(void)
>>   /* Protected by sched_domains_mutex: */
>>   static cpumask_var_t sched_domains_tmpmask;
>>   static cpumask_var_t sched_domains_tmpmask2;
>> +static int tl_max_llcs;
>>   
>>   static int __init sched_debug_setup(char *str)
>>   {
>> @@ -658,7 +659,7 @@ static void destroy_sched_domains(struct sched_domain *sd)
>>    */
>>   DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct sched_domain __rcu *, sd_llc);
>>   DEFINE_PER_CPU(int, sd_llc_size);
>> -DEFINE_PER_CPU(int, sd_llc_id);
>> +DEFINE_PER_CPU(int, sd_llc_id) = -1;
>>   DEFINE_PER_CPU(int, sd_share_id);
>>   DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct sched_domain_shared __rcu *, sd_llc_shared);
>>   DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct sched_domain __rcu *, sd_numa);
>> @@ -684,7 +685,6 @@ static void update_top_cache_domain(int cpu)
>>   
>>   	rcu_assign_pointer(per_cpu(sd_llc, cpu), sd);
>>   	per_cpu(sd_llc_size, cpu) = size;
>> -	per_cpu(sd_llc_id, cpu) = id;
>>   	rcu_assign_pointer(per_cpu(sd_llc_shared, cpu), sds);
>>   
>>   	sd = lowest_flag_domain(cpu, SD_CLUSTER);
>> @@ -2567,10 +2567,18 @@ build_sched_domains(const struct cpumask *cpu_map, struct sched_domain_attr *att
>>   
>>   	/* Set up domains for CPUs specified by the cpu_map: */
>>   	for_each_cpu(i, cpu_map) {
>> -		struct sched_domain_topology_level *tl;
>> +		struct sched_domain_topology_level *tl, *tl_llc = NULL;
>> +		int lid;
>>   
>>   		sd = NULL;
>>   		for_each_sd_topology(tl) {
>> +			int flags = 0;
>> +
>> +			if (tl->sd_flags)
>> +				flags = (*tl->sd_flags)();
>> +
>> +			if (flags & SD_SHARE_LLC)
>> +				tl_llc = tl;
> 
> nit. This loop breaks out when sched_domain_span(sd) covers the entire
> cpu_map and it might have not reached the topmost SD_SHARE_LLC domain
> yet. Is that cause for any concern?
> 

Could you please elaborate a little more on this? If it covers the
entire cpu_map shouldn't it stop going up to its parent domain?
Do you mean, sd_llc_1 and its parent sd_llc_2 could cover the same cpu_map,
and we should let tl_llc to assigned to sd_llc_2 (sd_llc_1 be degenerated? )

>>   
>>   			sd = build_sched_domain(tl, cpu_map, attr, sd, i);
>>   
>> @@ -2581,6 +2589,39 @@ build_sched_domains(const struct cpumask *cpu_map, struct sched_domain_attr *att
>>   			if (cpumask_equal(cpu_map, sched_domain_span(sd)))
>>   				break;
>>   		}
>> +
>> +		lid = per_cpu(sd_llc_id, i);
>> +		if (lid == -1) {
>> +			int j;
>> +
>> +			/*
>> +			 * Assign the llc_id to the CPUs that do not
>> +			 * have an LLC.
>> +			 */
>> +			if (!tl_llc) {
>> +				per_cpu(sd_llc_id, i) = tl_max_llcs++;
>> +
>> +				continue;
>> +			}
>> +
>> +			/* try to reuse the llc_id of its siblings */
>> +			for_each_cpu(j, tl_llc->mask(tl_llc, i)) {
> 
> 
> My only large concern that remains is the fact that offline CPUs are
> taken out the the tl->mask() which can lead to interesting cases where
> CPUs on same LLC can have different llc_id:
> 
> o Boot with maxcpus=1
> 
> o Run:
> 
>    for i in {1..$NRCPUS}; do
>      echo 1 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu$i/online;
>      echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu$i/online;
>    done
> 
> o Finally run:
> 
>    echo 1 | tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/online;
> 
> 
> Once all CPUs are online, only the CPUs in boot CPU's LLC will have
> the same llc_id. Every other CPU will have a unique llc_id which might
> make the system behave unexpectedly.
> 

You are right, I did not realize that the tl->mask would be unreliable
for detecting offline CPUs, and this case is brilliant for exposing
the bug in current code, nice catch!


> I'm wondering if we can do something like below on top of this patch:
> 
>    (Only build tested; Prepared on top of this patch in Tim's tree)
> 
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
> index c6efa71cf500..aee1be89ab4c 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
> @@ -8268,6 +8268,8 @@ static void cpuset_cpu_active(void)
>   static void cpuset_cpu_inactive(unsigned int cpu)
>   {
>   	if (!cpuhp_tasks_frozen) {
> +		/* XXX: Is this the right spot? */
> +		sched_domains_free_llc_id(cpu);
>   		cpuset_update_active_cpus();
>   	} else {
>   		num_cpus_frozen++;
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/sched.h b/kernel/sched/sched.h
> index de5b701c3950..31a8910297c7 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/sched.h
> +++ b/kernel/sched/sched.h
> @@ -3903,6 +3903,7 @@ static inline bool sched_cache_enabled(void)
>   }
>   #endif
>   extern void init_sched_mm(struct task_struct *p);
> +void sched_domains_free_llc_id(int cpu);
>   
>   extern u64 avg_vruntime(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq);
>   extern int entity_eligible(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se);
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/topology.c b/kernel/sched/topology.c
> index ca46b5cf7f78..04c1ab489ee2 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/topology.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/topology.c
> @@ -18,6 +18,7 @@ void sched_domains_mutex_unlock(void)
>   }
>   
>   /* Protected by sched_domains_mutex: */
> +static cpumask_var_t sched_domains_llc_id_allocmask;
>   static cpumask_var_t sched_domains_tmpmask;
>   static cpumask_var_t sched_domains_tmpmask2;
>   static int tl_max_llcs;
> @@ -2543,6 +2544,53 @@ static bool topology_span_sane(const struct cpumask *cpu_map)
>   	return true;
>   }
>   
> +static int __sched_domains_alloc_llc_id(void)
> +{
> +	int lid;
> +
> +	lockdep_assert_held(&sched_domains_mutex);
> +
> +	lid = cpumask_first_zero(sched_domains_llc_id_allocmask);
> +	if (lid >= tl_max_llcs)
> +		tl_max_llcs++;
> +
> +	/*
> +	 * llc_id space should never grow larger than the
> +	 * possible number of CPUs in the system.
> +	 */
> +	if (!unlikely(WARN_ON_ONCE(lid >= nr_cpumask_bits)))
> +		cpumask_set_cpu(lid, sched_domains_llc_id_allocmask);
> +	return lid;
> +}
> +
> +static void __sched_domains_free_llc_id(int cpu)
> +{
> +	int i, lid;
> +
> +	lockdep_assert_held(&sched_domains_mutex);
> +
> +	lid = per_cpu(sd_llc_id, cpu);
> +	if (lid == -1)
> +		return;
> +
> +	per_cpu(sd_llc_id, cpu) = -1;
> +
> +	for_each_online_cpu(i) {
> +		/* An online CPU owns the llc_id. */
> +		if (per_cpu(sd_llc_id, i) == lid)
> +			return;
> +	}
> +
> +	cpumask_clear_cpu(lid, sched_domains_llc_id_allocmask);
> +}
> +
> +void sched_domains_free_llc_id(int cpu)
> +{
> +	sched_domains_mutex_lock();
> +	__sched_domains_free_llc_id(cpu);
> +	sched_domains_mutex_unlock();
> +}
> +
>   /*
>    * Build sched domains for a given set of CPUs and attach the sched domains
>    * to the individual CPUs
> @@ -2599,7 +2647,7 @@ build_sched_domains(const struct cpumask *cpu_map, struct sched_domain_attr *att
>   			 * have an LLC.
>   			 */
>   			if (!tl_llc) {
> -				per_cpu(sd_llc_id, i) = tl_max_llcs++;
> +				per_cpu(sd_llc_id, i) = __sched_domains_alloc_llc_id();
>   
>   				continue;
>   			}
> @@ -2620,7 +2668,7 @@ build_sched_domains(const struct cpumask *cpu_map, struct sched_domain_attr *att
>   
>   			/* a new LLC is detected */
>   			if (lid == -1)
> -				per_cpu(sd_llc_id, i) = tl_max_llcs++;
> +				per_cpu(sd_llc_id, i) = __sched_domains_alloc_llc_id();
>   		}
>   	}
>   
> @@ -2798,6 +2846,7 @@ int __init sched_init_domains(const struct cpumask *cpu_map)
>   {
>   	int err;
>   
> +	zalloc_cpumask_var(&sched_domains_llc_id_allocmask, GFP_KERNEL);
>   	zalloc_cpumask_var(&sched_domains_tmpmask, GFP_KERNEL);
>   	zalloc_cpumask_var(&sched_domains_tmpmask2, GFP_KERNEL);
>   	zalloc_cpumask_var(&fallback_doms, GFP_KERNEL);
> ---
> 
> It doesn't compact tl_max_llcs, but it should promote reuse of llc_id if
> all CPUs of a LLC go offline. I know it is a ridiculous scenario but it
> is possible nonetheless.
> 
> I'll let Peter and Valentin be the judge of additional space and
> complexity needed for these bits :-)
>

Smart approach! Dynamically reallocating the llc_id should be feasible,
as it releases the llc_id when the last CPU of that LLC is offlined. My
only concern is data synchronization issues arising from the reuse of
llc_id during load balancing - I’ll audit the logic to check for any race
conditions. Alternatively, what if we introduce a tl->static_mask? It would
be similar to tl->mask, but would not remove CPUs from static_mask when 
they
are offlined. This way, we can always find and reuse the llc_id of CPUs in
that LLC (even if all CPUs in the LLC have been offlined at some point,
provided they were once online), and we would thus maintain a static llc_id.

Anyway, let do some testings on your proposal as well as static_mask things,
and I'll reply to this thread later. Thanks for the insights!

thanks,
Chenyu


  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-17  6:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-10 22:18 [PATCH v3 00/21] Cache Aware Scheduling Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 01/21] sched/cache: Introduce infrastructure for cache-aware load balancing Tim Chen
2026-02-14 12:26   ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-14 15:34     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-17 18:51       ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 02/21] sched/cache: Record per LLC utilization to guide cache aware scheduling decisions Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 03/21] sched/cache: Introduce helper functions to enforce LLC migration policy Tim Chen
2026-02-14 16:12   ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-15 12:14     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 11:29   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 14:48     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 14:55       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 04/21] sched/cache: Make LLC id continuous Tim Chen
2026-02-14 17:53   ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-15 14:25     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-17 10:05       ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-17 21:20         ` Tim Chen
2026-02-16  7:44   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-17  6:07     ` Chen, Yu C [this message]
2026-02-17  8:09       ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-17 23:12         ` Tim Chen
2026-02-18  3:28           ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-18 15:22             ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-18 17:46               ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-18 23:21                 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19  6:12                   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-19 15:51                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20  0:11                     ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 11:25                   ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 16:10                     ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-18 18:45               ` Tim Chen
2026-02-18 21:33             ` Tim Chen
2026-02-18 15:11         ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 15:48         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 15:22           ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 15:40     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 15:53       ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-20 16:03         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 16:10           ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-20 19:24             ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20 19:30               ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 19:35                 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 11:35   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 18:17     ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 14:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 15:20     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 19:20       ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 21:04         ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20 17:17           ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 05/21] sched/cache: Assign preferred LLC ID to processes Tim Chen
2026-02-14 18:36   ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-16  6:58     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 06/21] sched/cache: Track LLC-preferred tasks per runqueue Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 07/21] sched/cache: Introduce per CPU's tasks LLC preference counter Tim Chen
2026-02-20 10:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 16:57     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-20 18:38       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 08/21] sched/cache: Calculate the percpu sd task LLC preference Tim Chen
2026-02-20 11:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 14:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 17:25       ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 09/21] sched/cache: Count tasks prefering destination LLC in a sched group Tim Chen
2026-02-20 12:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 13:43     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-21  2:53       ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 10/21] sched/cache: Check local_group only once in update_sg_lb_stats() Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 11/21] sched/cache: Prioritize tasks preferring destination LLC during balancing Tim Chen
2026-02-17 18:33   ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-17 21:45     ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 12/21] sched/cache: Add migrate_llc_task migration type for cache-aware balancing Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 13/21] sched/cache: Handle moving single tasks to/from their preferred LLC Tim Chen
2026-02-17 19:00   ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-17 22:04     ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20 13:53   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 18:22     ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 14/21] sched/cache: Respect LLC preference in task migration and detach Tim Chen
2026-02-18  9:14   ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-18 15:34     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 15/21] sched/cache: Disable cache aware scheduling for processes with high thread counts Tim Chen
2026-02-18 17:54   ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-18 21:44     ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19  2:28       ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-19 14:38         ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 21:12         ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 16:52     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20  7:02       ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-19 16:55     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20  6:40       ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-20  9:53         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-24  9:42           ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-19 16:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 21:06     ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 16/21] sched/cache: Avoid cache-aware scheduling for memory-heavy processes Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 17/21] sched/cache: Enable cache aware scheduling for multi LLCs NUMA node Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 18/21] sched/cache: Allow the user space to turn on and off cache aware scheduling Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 19/21] sched/cache: Add user control to adjust the aggressiveness of cache-aware scheduling Tim Chen
2026-02-20 14:29   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 18:18     ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:19 ` [PATCH v3 20/21] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Display the per LLC occupancy for each process via proc fs Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:19 ` [PATCH v3 21/21] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Add ftrace to track the load balance statistics Tim Chen
2026-02-19 14:08 ` [PATCH v3 00/21] Cache Aware Scheduling Qais Yousef
2026-02-19 14:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 15:07     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 18:11       ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20  3:29         ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-20  9:43           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-24  2:49             ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-20 18:14           ` Tim Chen
2026-02-24  3:02             ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-20  3:25       ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-21  2:48         ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-24  3:11           ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-19 19:48     ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-19 21:47       ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20  3:41         ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-20  8:45           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-24  3:31             ` Qais Yousef

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