From: "Chen, Yu C" <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 04/21] sched/cache: Make LLC id continuous
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2026 23:22:29 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d6bf028a-6b6b-4aba-93b2-aa7f3397739a@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260219154829.GJ1395266@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On 2/19/2026 11:48 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2026 at 01:39:45PM +0530, K Prateek Nayak wrote:
>> I'm not sure if this is technically possible but assume following
>> topology:
>>
>> [ LLC: 8-15 ]
>> [ SMT: 8,9 ][ SMT: 10,11 ] ... [ SMT: 14,15 ]
>>
>> and the following series of events:
>>
>> o All CPUs in LLC are offline to begin with (maxcpus = 1 like scenario).
>>
>> o CPUs 10-15 are onlined first.
>>
>> o CPU8 is put in a separate root partition and brought online.
>> (XXX: I'm not 100% sure if this is possible in this order)
>>
>> o build_sched_domains() will bail out at SMT domain since the cpumap
>> is covered by tl->mask() and tl_llc = tl_smt.
>>
>> o llc_id calculation uses the tl_smt->mask() which will not contain
>> CPUs 10-15 and CPU8 will get a unique LLC id even though there are
>> other online CPUs in the LLC with a different llc_id (!!!)
>
> Yeah, so partitions (including isol_cpus) could wreck things here, since
> this is purely about the sched_domains.
>
> You can create N single CPU partitions (isol_cpus does this) and end up
> with the same 'problem' that online one at a time loop did. Except this
> time it would not be 'wrong'. Since they are single CPU domains, you
> also don't get load-balancing, so who cares I suppose. But it will
> inflate max_lid.
>
> But suppose you create N/2 partitions (where N is the number of CPUs in
> the physical LLC), then you get many individual 'LLC's and
> load-balancing inside them. I suppose this is correct, although it does
> inflate max_lid somewhat beyond what you would normally expect.
>
> However, most of that space would be wasted, since you're not actually
> allowed to migrate to them.
>
Besides wasting space, after removing CPUs from all N/2 partitions and
merging them into the root partition, each CPU would still have a distinct
llc_id from the other CPUs in the same LLC domain, because we do not
reassign
llc_id values to CPUs in current version. This issue should be resolved by
switching to the new dynamic llc_id allocation and release method.
thanks,
Chenyu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-20 15:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-10 22:18 [PATCH v3 00/21] Cache Aware Scheduling Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 01/21] sched/cache: Introduce infrastructure for cache-aware load balancing Tim Chen
2026-02-14 12:26 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-14 15:34 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-17 18:51 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 02/21] sched/cache: Record per LLC utilization to guide cache aware scheduling decisions Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 03/21] sched/cache: Introduce helper functions to enforce LLC migration policy Tim Chen
2026-02-14 16:12 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-15 12:14 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 11:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 14:48 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 14:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 04/21] sched/cache: Make LLC id continuous Tim Chen
2026-02-14 17:53 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-15 14:25 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-17 10:05 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-17 21:20 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-16 7:44 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-17 6:07 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-17 8:09 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-17 23:12 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-18 3:28 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-18 15:22 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-18 17:46 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-18 23:21 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 6:12 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-19 15:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 0:11 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 11:25 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 16:10 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-18 18:45 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-18 21:33 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-18 15:11 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 15:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 15:22 ` Chen, Yu C [this message]
2026-02-19 15:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 15:53 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-20 16:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 16:10 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-20 19:24 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20 19:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 19:35 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 11:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 18:17 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 14:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 15:20 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 19:20 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 21:04 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20 17:17 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 05/21] sched/cache: Assign preferred LLC ID to processes Tim Chen
2026-02-14 18:36 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-16 6:58 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 06/21] sched/cache: Track LLC-preferred tasks per runqueue Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 07/21] sched/cache: Introduce per CPU's tasks LLC preference counter Tim Chen
2026-02-20 10:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 16:57 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-20 18:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 08/21] sched/cache: Calculate the percpu sd task LLC preference Tim Chen
2026-02-20 11:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 14:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 17:25 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 09/21] sched/cache: Count tasks prefering destination LLC in a sched group Tim Chen
2026-02-20 12:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 13:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-21 2:53 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 10/21] sched/cache: Check local_group only once in update_sg_lb_stats() Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 11/21] sched/cache: Prioritize tasks preferring destination LLC during balancing Tim Chen
2026-02-17 18:33 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-17 21:45 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 12/21] sched/cache: Add migrate_llc_task migration type for cache-aware balancing Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 13/21] sched/cache: Handle moving single tasks to/from their preferred LLC Tim Chen
2026-02-17 19:00 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-17 22:04 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20 13:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 18:22 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 14/21] sched/cache: Respect LLC preference in task migration and detach Tim Chen
2026-02-18 9:14 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-18 15:34 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 15/21] sched/cache: Disable cache aware scheduling for processes with high thread counts Tim Chen
2026-02-18 17:54 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-18 21:44 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 2:28 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-19 14:38 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 21:12 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 16:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 7:02 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-19 16:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 6:40 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-20 9:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-24 9:42 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-19 16:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 21:06 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 16/21] sched/cache: Avoid cache-aware scheduling for memory-heavy processes Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 17/21] sched/cache: Enable cache aware scheduling for multi LLCs NUMA node Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 18/21] sched/cache: Allow the user space to turn on and off cache aware scheduling Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 19/21] sched/cache: Add user control to adjust the aggressiveness of cache-aware scheduling Tim Chen
2026-02-20 14:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 18:18 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:19 ` [PATCH v3 20/21] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Display the per LLC occupancy for each process via proc fs Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:19 ` [PATCH v3 21/21] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Add ftrace to track the load balance statistics Tim Chen
2026-02-19 14:08 ` [PATCH v3 00/21] Cache Aware Scheduling Qais Yousef
2026-02-19 14:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 15:07 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 18:11 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20 3:29 ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-20 9:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-24 2:49 ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-20 18:14 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-24 3:02 ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-20 3:25 ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-21 2:48 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-24 3:11 ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-19 19:48 ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-19 21:47 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20 3:41 ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-20 8:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-24 3:31 ` Qais Yousef
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