From: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
To: Madadi Vineeth Reddy <vineethr@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 11/21] sched/cache: Prioritize tasks preferring destination LLC during balancing
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2026 13:45:51 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <daf12058d17f6bf85ab74af7aa739305d24490c4.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51bac0c9-863b-42cb-8c5c-7a6355840e19@linux.ibm.com>
On Wed, 2026-02-18 at 00:03 +0530, Madadi Vineeth Reddy wrote:
> On 11/02/26 03:48, Tim Chen wrote:
> > During LLC load balancing, first check for tasks that prefer the
> > destination LLC and balance them to it before others.
> >
> > Mark source sched groups containing tasks preferring non local LLCs
> > with the group_llc_balance flag. This ensures the load balancer later
> > pulls or pushes these tasks toward their preferred LLCs.
> >
> > The load balancer selects the busiest sched_group and migrates tasks
> > to less busy groups to distribute load across CPUs.
> >
> > With cache-aware scheduling enabled, the busiest sched_group is
> > the one with most tasks preferring the destination LLC. If
> > the group has the llc_balance flag set, cache aware load balancing is
> > triggered.
> >
> > Introduce the helper function update_llc_busiest() to identify the
> > sched_group with the most tasks preferring the destination LLC.
> >
> > Suggested-by: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
> > Co-developed-by: Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
> > ---
> >
> > Notes:
> > v2->v3:
> > Consider sd->nr_balance_failed when deciding whether
> > LLC load balance should be used.
> > (Peter Zijlstra)
> >
> > kernel/sched/fair.c | 77 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> > 1 file changed, 76 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > index b0cf4424d198..43dcf2827298 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > @@ -9649,6 +9649,11 @@ enum group_type {
> > * from balancing the load across the system.
> > */
> > group_imbalanced,
> > + /*
> > + * There are tasks running on non-preferred LLC, possible to move
> > + * them to their preferred LLC without creating too much imbalance.
> > + */
> > + group_llc_balance,
> > /*
> > * The CPU is overloaded and can't provide expected CPU cycles to all
> > * tasks.
> > @@ -10561,6 +10566,7 @@ struct sg_lb_stats {
> > enum group_type group_type;
> > unsigned int group_asym_packing; /* Tasks should be moved to preferred CPU */
> > unsigned int group_smt_balance; /* Task on busy SMT be moved */
> > + unsigned int group_llc_balance; /* Tasks should be moved to preferred LLC */
> > unsigned long group_misfit_task_load; /* A CPU has a task too big for its capacity */
> > #ifdef CONFIG_NUMA_BALANCING
> > unsigned int nr_numa_running;
> > @@ -10819,6 +10825,9 @@ group_type group_classify(unsigned int imbalance_pct,
> > if (group_is_overloaded(imbalance_pct, sgs))
> > return group_overloaded;
> >
> > + if (sgs->group_llc_balance)
> > + return group_llc_balance;
> > +
>
> group_llc_balance is placed before group_imbalanced. In cases where a group is both imbalanced and
> contains tasks preferring the destination LLC, LLC balancing will be selected first.
>
> I assume the reasoning is that migrating tasks toward their preferred LLC may also help reduce
> imbalance, and in cases where the goals conflict, the nr_balance_failed / cache_nice_tries
> logic will eventually fall back to regular load balancing. Is that the intended policy?
>
> It might be helpful to briefly mention this reasoning in the changelog, since this ordering
> changes balancing priority.
>
group_llc_balance naturally aggregate tasks to LLC and could create imbalance
between LLC domains.
If we do group_imbalanced first, then after we balanced the load
and move on to consider group_llc_balance,
group_llc_balance will cause load imbalance between the LLCs again
and undo all the previous load balance work.
It is better to do group_llc_balance to move the tasks to their preferred
LLC first, then let group_imbalanced do adjustments to imbalance in load.
The can_migrate_llc_task() check will prevent group_imbalanced from undoing
the work done previously in group_llc_balance.
Yes, we'll add some comments to explain the reasoning of load balance priority.
Tim
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-17 21:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-10 22:18 [PATCH v3 00/21] Cache Aware Scheduling Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 01/21] sched/cache: Introduce infrastructure for cache-aware load balancing Tim Chen
2026-02-14 12:26 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-14 15:34 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-17 18:51 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 02/21] sched/cache: Record per LLC utilization to guide cache aware scheduling decisions Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 03/21] sched/cache: Introduce helper functions to enforce LLC migration policy Tim Chen
2026-02-14 16:12 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-15 12:14 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 11:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 14:48 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 14:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 04/21] sched/cache: Make LLC id continuous Tim Chen
2026-02-14 17:53 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-15 14:25 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-17 10:05 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-17 21:20 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-16 7:44 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-17 6:07 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-17 8:09 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-17 23:12 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-18 3:28 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-18 15:22 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-18 17:46 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-18 23:21 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 6:12 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-19 15:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 0:11 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 11:25 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 16:10 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-18 18:45 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-18 21:33 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-18 15:11 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 15:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 15:22 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 15:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 15:53 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-20 16:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 16:10 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-20 19:24 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20 19:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 19:35 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 11:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 18:17 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 14:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 15:20 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 19:20 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 21:04 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20 17:17 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 05/21] sched/cache: Assign preferred LLC ID to processes Tim Chen
2026-02-14 18:36 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-16 6:58 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 06/21] sched/cache: Track LLC-preferred tasks per runqueue Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 07/21] sched/cache: Introduce per CPU's tasks LLC preference counter Tim Chen
2026-02-20 10:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 16:57 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-20 18:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 08/21] sched/cache: Calculate the percpu sd task LLC preference Tim Chen
2026-02-20 11:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 14:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 17:25 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 09/21] sched/cache: Count tasks prefering destination LLC in a sched group Tim Chen
2026-02-20 12:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 13:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-21 2:53 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 10/21] sched/cache: Check local_group only once in update_sg_lb_stats() Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 11/21] sched/cache: Prioritize tasks preferring destination LLC during balancing Tim Chen
2026-02-17 18:33 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-17 21:45 ` Tim Chen [this message]
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 12/21] sched/cache: Add migrate_llc_task migration type for cache-aware balancing Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 13/21] sched/cache: Handle moving single tasks to/from their preferred LLC Tim Chen
2026-02-17 19:00 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-17 22:04 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20 13:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 18:22 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 14/21] sched/cache: Respect LLC preference in task migration and detach Tim Chen
2026-02-18 9:14 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-18 15:34 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 15/21] sched/cache: Disable cache aware scheduling for processes with high thread counts Tim Chen
2026-02-18 17:54 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-18 21:44 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 2:28 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-19 14:38 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 21:12 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 16:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 7:02 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-19 16:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 6:40 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-20 9:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-24 9:42 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-19 16:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 21:06 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 16/21] sched/cache: Avoid cache-aware scheduling for memory-heavy processes Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 17/21] sched/cache: Enable cache aware scheduling for multi LLCs NUMA node Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 18/21] sched/cache: Allow the user space to turn on and off cache aware scheduling Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 19/21] sched/cache: Add user control to adjust the aggressiveness of cache-aware scheduling Tim Chen
2026-02-20 14:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 18:18 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:19 ` [PATCH v3 20/21] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Display the per LLC occupancy for each process via proc fs Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:19 ` [PATCH v3 21/21] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Add ftrace to track the load balance statistics Tim Chen
2026-02-19 14:08 ` [PATCH v3 00/21] Cache Aware Scheduling Qais Yousef
2026-02-19 14:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 15:07 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 18:11 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20 3:29 ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-20 9:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-24 2:49 ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-20 18:14 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-24 3:02 ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-20 3:25 ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-21 2:48 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-24 3:11 ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-19 19:48 ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-19 21:47 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20 3:41 ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-20 8:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-24 3:31 ` Qais Yousef
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