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From: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
To: Madadi Vineeth Reddy <vineethr@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	"Gautham R . Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
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		linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 11/21] sched/cache: Prioritize tasks preferring destination LLC during balancing
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2026 13:45:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <daf12058d17f6bf85ab74af7aa739305d24490c4.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51bac0c9-863b-42cb-8c5c-7a6355840e19@linux.ibm.com>

On Wed, 2026-02-18 at 00:03 +0530, Madadi Vineeth Reddy wrote:
> On 11/02/26 03:48, Tim Chen wrote:
> > During LLC load balancing, first check for tasks that prefer the
> > destination LLC and balance them to it before others.
> > 
> > Mark source sched groups containing tasks preferring non local LLCs
> > with the group_llc_balance flag. This ensures the load balancer later
> > pulls or pushes these tasks toward their preferred LLCs.
> > 
> > The load balancer selects the busiest sched_group and migrates tasks
> > to less busy groups to distribute load across CPUs.
> > 
> > With cache-aware scheduling enabled, the busiest sched_group is
> > the one with most tasks preferring the destination LLC. If
> > the group has the llc_balance flag set, cache aware load balancing is
> > triggered.
> > 
> > Introduce the helper function update_llc_busiest() to identify the
> > sched_group with the most tasks preferring the destination LLC.
> > 
> > Suggested-by: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
> > Co-developed-by: Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
> > ---
> > 
> > Notes:
> >     v2->v3:
> >     Consider sd->nr_balance_failed when deciding whether
> >     LLC load balance should be used.
> >     (Peter Zijlstra)
> > 
> >  kernel/sched/fair.c | 77 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> >  1 file changed, 76 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > index b0cf4424d198..43dcf2827298 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > @@ -9649,6 +9649,11 @@ enum group_type {
> >  	 * from balancing the load across the system.
> >  	 */
> >  	group_imbalanced,
> > +	/*
> > +	 * There are tasks running on non-preferred LLC, possible to move
> > +	 * them to their preferred LLC without creating too much imbalance.
> > +	 */
> > +	group_llc_balance,
> >  	/*
> >  	 * The CPU is overloaded and can't provide expected CPU cycles to all
> >  	 * tasks.
> > @@ -10561,6 +10566,7 @@ struct sg_lb_stats {
> >  	enum group_type group_type;
> >  	unsigned int group_asym_packing;	/* Tasks should be moved to preferred CPU */
> >  	unsigned int group_smt_balance;		/* Task on busy SMT be moved */
> > +	unsigned int group_llc_balance;		/* Tasks should be moved to preferred LLC */
> >  	unsigned long group_misfit_task_load;	/* A CPU has a task too big for its capacity */
> >  #ifdef CONFIG_NUMA_BALANCING
> >  	unsigned int nr_numa_running;
> > @@ -10819,6 +10825,9 @@ group_type group_classify(unsigned int imbalance_pct,
> >  	if (group_is_overloaded(imbalance_pct, sgs))
> >  		return group_overloaded;
> >  
> > +	if (sgs->group_llc_balance)
> > +		return group_llc_balance;
> > +
> 
> group_llc_balance is placed before group_imbalanced. In cases where a group is both imbalanced and
> contains tasks preferring the destination LLC, LLC balancing will be selected first.
> 
> I assume the reasoning is that migrating tasks toward their preferred LLC may also help reduce
> imbalance, and in cases where the goals conflict, the nr_balance_failed / cache_nice_tries
> logic will eventually fall back to regular load balancing. Is that the intended policy?
> 
> It might be helpful to briefly mention this reasoning in the changelog, since this ordering
> changes balancing priority.
> 

group_llc_balance naturally aggregate tasks to LLC and could create imbalance
between LLC domains. 

If we do group_imbalanced first, then after we balanced the load 
and move on to consider group_llc_balance,
group_llc_balance will cause load imbalance between the LLCs again
and undo all the previous load balance work.

It is better to do group_llc_balance to move the tasks to their preferred
LLC first, then let group_imbalanced do adjustments to imbalance in load.
The can_migrate_llc_task() check will prevent group_imbalanced from undoing
the work done previously in group_llc_balance.

Yes, we'll add some comments to explain the reasoning of load balance priority.

Tim

 
   

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-17 21:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-10 22:18 [PATCH v3 00/21] Cache Aware Scheduling Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 01/21] sched/cache: Introduce infrastructure for cache-aware load balancing Tim Chen
2026-02-14 12:26   ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-14 15:34     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-17 18:51       ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 02/21] sched/cache: Record per LLC utilization to guide cache aware scheduling decisions Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 03/21] sched/cache: Introduce helper functions to enforce LLC migration policy Tim Chen
2026-02-14 16:12   ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-15 12:14     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 11:29   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 14:48     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 14:55       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 04/21] sched/cache: Make LLC id continuous Tim Chen
2026-02-14 17:53   ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-15 14:25     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-17 10:05       ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-17 21:20         ` Tim Chen
2026-02-16  7:44   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-17  6:07     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-17  8:09       ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-17 23:12         ` Tim Chen
2026-02-18  3:28           ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-18 15:22             ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-18 17:46               ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-18 23:21                 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19  6:12                   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-19 15:51                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20  0:11                     ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 11:25                   ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 16:10                     ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-18 18:45               ` Tim Chen
2026-02-18 21:33             ` Tim Chen
2026-02-18 15:11         ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 15:48         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 15:22           ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 15:40     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 15:53       ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-20 16:03         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 16:10           ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-20 19:24             ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20 19:30               ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 19:35                 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 11:35   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 18:17     ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 14:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 15:20     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 19:20       ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 21:04         ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20 17:17           ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 05/21] sched/cache: Assign preferred LLC ID to processes Tim Chen
2026-02-14 18:36   ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-16  6:58     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 06/21] sched/cache: Track LLC-preferred tasks per runqueue Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 07/21] sched/cache: Introduce per CPU's tasks LLC preference counter Tim Chen
2026-02-20 10:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 16:57     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-20 18:38       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 08/21] sched/cache: Calculate the percpu sd task LLC preference Tim Chen
2026-02-20 11:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 14:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 17:25       ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 09/21] sched/cache: Count tasks prefering destination LLC in a sched group Tim Chen
2026-02-20 12:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 13:43     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-21  2:53       ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 10/21] sched/cache: Check local_group only once in update_sg_lb_stats() Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 11/21] sched/cache: Prioritize tasks preferring destination LLC during balancing Tim Chen
2026-02-17 18:33   ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-17 21:45     ` Tim Chen [this message]
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 12/21] sched/cache: Add migrate_llc_task migration type for cache-aware balancing Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 13/21] sched/cache: Handle moving single tasks to/from their preferred LLC Tim Chen
2026-02-17 19:00   ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-17 22:04     ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20 13:53   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 18:22     ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 14/21] sched/cache: Respect LLC preference in task migration and detach Tim Chen
2026-02-18  9:14   ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-18 15:34     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 15/21] sched/cache: Disable cache aware scheduling for processes with high thread counts Tim Chen
2026-02-18 17:54   ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-18 21:44     ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19  2:28       ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-19 14:38         ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 21:12         ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 16:52     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20  7:02       ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-19 16:55     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20  6:40       ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-20  9:53         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-24  9:42           ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-19 16:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 21:06     ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 16/21] sched/cache: Avoid cache-aware scheduling for memory-heavy processes Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 17/21] sched/cache: Enable cache aware scheduling for multi LLCs NUMA node Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 18/21] sched/cache: Allow the user space to turn on and off cache aware scheduling Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 19/21] sched/cache: Add user control to adjust the aggressiveness of cache-aware scheduling Tim Chen
2026-02-20 14:29   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 18:18     ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:19 ` [PATCH v3 20/21] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Display the per LLC occupancy for each process via proc fs Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:19 ` [PATCH v3 21/21] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Add ftrace to track the load balance statistics Tim Chen
2026-02-19 14:08 ` [PATCH v3 00/21] Cache Aware Scheduling Qais Yousef
2026-02-19 14:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 15:07     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 18:11       ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20  3:29         ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-20  9:43           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-24  2:49             ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-20 18:14           ` Tim Chen
2026-02-24  3:02             ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-20  3:25       ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-21  2:48         ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-24  3:11           ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-19 19:48     ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-19 21:47       ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20  3:41         ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-20  8:45           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-24  3:31             ` Qais Yousef

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