From: Madadi Vineeth Reddy <vineethr@linux.ibm.com>
To: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
"Gautham R . Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
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Libo Chen <libchen@purestorage.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Madadi Vineeth Reddy <vineethr@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 15/21] sched/cache: Disable cache aware scheduling for processes with high thread counts
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2026 23:24:05 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a89487d7-a043-4433-8872-f9e1f87d0daa@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f3113a94a9494371517c912e3dae4e1ca0cb195f.1770760558.git.tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
On 11/02/26 03:48, Tim Chen wrote:
> From: Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
>
> A performance regression was observed by Prateek when running hackbench
> with many threads per process (high fd count). To avoid this, processes
> with a large number of active threads are excluded from cache-aware
> scheduling.
>
> With sched_cache enabled, record the number of active threads in each
> process during the periodic task_cache_work(). While iterating over
> CPUs, if the currently running task belongs to the same process as the
> task that launched task_cache_work(), increment the active thread count.
>
> If the number of active threads within the process exceeds the number
> of Cores(divided by SMTs number) in the LLC, do not enable cache-aware
> scheduling. For users who wish to perform task aggregation regardless,
> a debugfs knob is provided for tuning in a subsequent patch.
>
> Suggested-by: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
> Suggested-by: Aaron Lu <ziqianlu@bytedance.com>
> Co-developed-by: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
> Signed-off-by: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
> Signed-off-by: Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
> ---
>
> Notes:
> v2->v3:
> Put the calculating of nr_running_avg and the use of it into 1 patch.
> (Peter Zijlstra)
>
> Use guard(rcu)() when calculating the number of active threads of the
> process.
> (Peter Zijlstra)
>
> Introduce update_avg_scale() rather than using update_avg() to fit
> system with small LLC.
> (Aaron Lu)
>
> include/linux/sched.h | 1 +
> kernel/sched/fair.c | 59 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
> 2 files changed, 57 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/include/linux/sched.h b/include/linux/sched.h
> index c98bd1c46088..511c9b263386 100644
> --- a/include/linux/sched.h
> +++ b/include/linux/sched.h
> @@ -2346,6 +2346,7 @@ struct sched_cache_stat {
> struct sched_cache_time __percpu *pcpu_sched;
> raw_spinlock_t lock;
> unsigned long epoch;
> + u64 nr_running_avg;
> int cpu;
> } ____cacheline_aligned_in_smp;
>
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> index d1145997b88d..86b6b08e7e1e 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -1223,6 +1223,19 @@ static inline bool valid_llc_buf(struct sched_domain *sd,
> return valid_llc_id(id);
> }
>
> +static bool exceed_llc_nr(struct mm_struct *mm, int cpu)
> +{
> + int smt_nr = 1;
> +
> +#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_SMT
> + if (sched_smt_active())
> + smt_nr = cpumask_weight(cpu_smt_mask(cpu));
> +#endif
> +
> + return !fits_capacity((mm->sc_stat.nr_running_avg * smt_nr),
> + per_cpu(sd_llc_size, cpu));
On Power10/Power11 with SMT4 and LLC size of 4, this check
effectively disables cache-aware scheduling for any process.
I raised this point in v1 as well. Increasing the threshold
doesn't seem like a viable solution either, as that would regress
hackbench/ebizzy.
Is there a way to make this useful for architectures with small LLC
sizes? One possible approach we were exploring is to have LLC at a
hemisphere level that comprise multiple SMT4 cores.
Thanks,
Vineeth
> +}
> +
> static void account_llc_enqueue(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p)
> {
> struct sched_domain *sd;
> @@ -1417,7 +1430,8 @@ void account_mm_sched(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, s64 delta_exec)
> */
> if (time_after(epoch,
> READ_ONCE(mm->sc_stat.epoch) + EPOCH_LLC_AFFINITY_TIMEOUT) ||
> - get_nr_threads(p) <= 1) {
> + get_nr_threads(p) <= 1 ||
> + exceed_llc_nr(mm, cpu_of(rq))) {
> if (mm->sc_stat.cpu != -1)
> mm->sc_stat.cpu = -1;
> }
> @@ -1458,13 +1472,31 @@ static void task_tick_cache(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p)
> }
> }
>
> +static inline void update_avg_scale(u64 *avg, u64 sample)
> +{
> + int factor = per_cpu(sd_llc_size, raw_smp_processor_id());
> + s64 diff = sample - *avg;
> + u32 divisor;
> +
> + /*
> + * Scale the divisor based on the number of CPUs contained
> + * in the LLC. This scaling ensures smaller LLC domains use
> + * a smaller divisor to achieve more precise sensitivity to
> + * changes in nr_running, while larger LLC domains are capped
> + * at a maximum divisor of 8 which is the default smoothing
> + * factor of EWMA in update_avg().
> + */
> + divisor = clamp_t(u32, (factor >> 2), 2, 8);
> + *avg += div64_s64(diff, divisor);
> +}
> +
> static void task_cache_work(struct callback_head *work)
> {
> - struct task_struct *p = current;
> + struct task_struct *p = current, *cur;
> struct mm_struct *mm = p->mm;
> unsigned long m_a_occ = 0;
> unsigned long curr_m_a_occ = 0;
> - int cpu, m_a_cpu = -1;
> + int cpu, m_a_cpu = -1, nr_running = 0;
> cpumask_var_t cpus;
>
> WARN_ON_ONCE(work != &p->cache_work);
> @@ -1474,6 +1506,13 @@ static void task_cache_work(struct callback_head *work)
> if (p->flags & PF_EXITING)
> return;
>
> + if (get_nr_threads(p) <= 1) {
> + if (mm->sc_stat.cpu != -1)
> + mm->sc_stat.cpu = -1;
> +
> + return;
> + }
> +
> if (!zalloc_cpumask_var(&cpus, GFP_KERNEL))
> return;
>
> @@ -1497,6 +1536,12 @@ static void task_cache_work(struct callback_head *work)
> m_occ = occ;
> m_cpu = i;
> }
> + scoped_guard (rcu) {
> + cur = rcu_dereference(cpu_rq(i)->curr);
> + if (cur && !(cur->flags & (PF_EXITING | PF_KTHREAD)) &&
> + cur->mm == mm)
> + nr_running++;
> + }
> }
>
> /*
> @@ -1540,6 +1585,7 @@ static void task_cache_work(struct callback_head *work)
> mm->sc_stat.cpu = m_a_cpu;
> }
>
> + update_avg_scale(&mm->sc_stat.nr_running_avg, nr_running);
> free_cpumask_var(cpus);
> }
>
> @@ -9988,6 +10034,13 @@ static enum llc_mig can_migrate_llc_task(int src_cpu, int dst_cpu,
> if (cpu < 0 || cpus_share_cache(src_cpu, dst_cpu))
> return mig_unrestricted;
>
> + /* skip cache aware load balance for single/too many threads */
> + if (get_nr_threads(p) <= 1 || exceed_llc_nr(mm, dst_cpu)) {
> + if (mm->sc_stat.cpu != -1)
> + mm->sc_stat.cpu = -1;
> + return mig_unrestricted;
> + }
> +
> if (cpus_share_cache(dst_cpu, cpu))
> to_pref = true;
> else if (cpus_share_cache(src_cpu, cpu))
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Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2026-02-14 12:26 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-14 15:34 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-17 18:51 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 02/21] sched/cache: Record per LLC utilization to guide cache aware scheduling decisions Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 03/21] sched/cache: Introduce helper functions to enforce LLC migration policy Tim Chen
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2026-02-15 12:14 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 11:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
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2026-02-19 14:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 04/21] sched/cache: Make LLC id continuous Tim Chen
2026-02-14 17:53 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-15 14:25 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-17 10:05 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-17 21:20 ` Tim Chen
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2026-02-17 6:07 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-17 8:09 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-17 23:12 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-18 3:28 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-18 15:22 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-18 17:46 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-18 23:21 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 6:12 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-19 15:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 0:11 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 11:25 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 16:10 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-18 18:45 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-18 21:33 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-18 15:11 ` Chen, Yu C
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2026-02-20 15:22 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 15:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 15:53 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-20 16:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 16:10 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-20 19:24 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20 19:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 19:35 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 11:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 18:17 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 14:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 15:20 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 19:20 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 21:04 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20 17:17 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 05/21] sched/cache: Assign preferred LLC ID to processes Tim Chen
2026-02-14 18:36 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-16 6:58 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 06/21] sched/cache: Track LLC-preferred tasks per runqueue Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 07/21] sched/cache: Introduce per CPU's tasks LLC preference counter Tim Chen
2026-02-20 10:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 16:57 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-20 18:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 08/21] sched/cache: Calculate the percpu sd task LLC preference Tim Chen
2026-02-20 11:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 14:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 17:25 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 09/21] sched/cache: Count tasks prefering destination LLC in a sched group Tim Chen
2026-02-20 12:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 13:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-21 2:53 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 10/21] sched/cache: Check local_group only once in update_sg_lb_stats() Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 11/21] sched/cache: Prioritize tasks preferring destination LLC during balancing Tim Chen
2026-02-17 18:33 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-17 21:45 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 12/21] sched/cache: Add migrate_llc_task migration type for cache-aware balancing Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 13/21] sched/cache: Handle moving single tasks to/from their preferred LLC Tim Chen
2026-02-17 19:00 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-17 22:04 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20 13:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 18:22 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 14/21] sched/cache: Respect LLC preference in task migration and detach Tim Chen
2026-02-18 9:14 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-18 15:34 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 15/21] sched/cache: Disable cache aware scheduling for processes with high thread counts Tim Chen
2026-02-18 17:54 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy [this message]
2026-02-18 21:44 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 2:28 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-19 14:38 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 21:12 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-19 16:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 7:02 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-19 16:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 6:40 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-20 9:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-24 9:42 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2026-02-19 16:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 21:06 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 16/21] sched/cache: Avoid cache-aware scheduling for memory-heavy processes Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 17/21] sched/cache: Enable cache aware scheduling for multi LLCs NUMA node Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 18/21] sched/cache: Allow the user space to turn on and off cache aware scheduling Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:18 ` [PATCH v3 19/21] sched/cache: Add user control to adjust the aggressiveness of cache-aware scheduling Tim Chen
2026-02-20 14:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-20 18:18 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:19 ` [PATCH v3 20/21] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Display the per LLC occupancy for each process via proc fs Tim Chen
2026-02-10 22:19 ` [PATCH v3 21/21] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Add ftrace to track the load balance statistics Tim Chen
2026-02-19 14:08 ` [PATCH v3 00/21] Cache Aware Scheduling Qais Yousef
2026-02-19 14:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 15:07 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-19 18:11 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-20 3:29 ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-20 9:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-24 2:49 ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-20 18:14 ` Tim Chen
2026-02-24 3:02 ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-20 3:25 ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-21 2:48 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-02-24 3:11 ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-19 19:48 ` Qais Yousef
2026-02-19 21:47 ` Tim Chen
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